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Wednesday, August 3, 2011
Martin Chemnitz Press Books Sent to Various People
I had the pleasure of sending books to various people this week. One wanted Luther versus the UOJ Pietists for a pastoral friend, details left vague on purpose. He will get multiple copies.
A Roman Catholic wanted to know more about Bethany and Erin, so she is getting two copies of Angel Joy, for herself and her family.
A Protestant was interested in the upcoming children's book, so I sent copies for her to look over and comment upon.
Someone from another country wrote today: "Some nine years ago you kindly sent me several books which have proved to be most useful; THY STRONG WORD - CATHOLIC, PROTESTANT, LUTHERAN –JESUS PRICELESS TREASURE. Since then I have been a regular follower of your blog."
I had a thought about the children's book or other books. If someone wants to have multiple copies in the future for the lowest cost, I can easily make arrangements. In fact, Lulu has special offers from time to time. The costs drop at various levels, starting at five copies, 10, 20, 50, etc. They also have additional discounts on top of the quantity discount.
So, if someone wanted plenty of one book, which is what we did at Emmaus, a little planning can lower the cost by quite a lot. Another option, I believe, is to have various titles in one order.
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Yes, pastor Jackson, thank you for your books. I keep them at hand and they have helped me to understand the precious doctrine of the efficacy of the WORD.
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The page-reads for the last month were above 56,000, 50% higher than one year ago.
Fifty people are followers.
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Around 15,000 comments have been published since this blog began, with almost 7,000 posts published.
Can the Syn Conference Condemn Warren Jeffs?
Where should I start? I recall a Missouri Synod pastor who preyed upon boys. He was moved down to the Carribean, but one of his victims eventually sued the congregation and won the entire church property.
Anyone can find countless examples of horrible crimes, covered up by the synodical leaders. Some people have given me detailed information about William D. Tabor's adultery and the murder of his wife - by his mistress. Tabor spent part of his adulterous career at Holy Scripture in Cape Girardeau. Jay Webber told me all about it. So did Roger Zehms, who was the WELS circuit pastor who oversaw the move of Tabor from LCR (I believe) to WELS. Zehms knew all about Tabor's open adultery.
The entire Synodical Conference got involved with Floyd Luther Stolzenburg. His shenanigans in St. Louis were overlooked by the Missouri Synod leaders until things got too hot. Mrs. Stolzenburg divorced him. Floyd's mistress' husband sued him.
Floyd moved to Columbus, Ohio to become a Church Growth expert for WELS. Roger Zehms was divorced and came from St. Louis to Columbus to share in the spread of false doctrine. Real estate mogul George Skestos, soon to be divorced from his wife, funded the pair of divorced ex-pastors, who would show WELS how to do Church Growth.
After five years of constant trouble from Stolzenburg and Zehms, WELS sent Zehms to Milwaukee to work for WELS Lutherans for Life, a pro-family entity. The leader, Bob Flesichmann, divorced his wife and married his secretary.
What do all these men have in common? They all claimed "Scriptural divorces."
VP Paul Kuske (Shrinker) and Rev. Robert Schumann (born-again atheist) endorsed Floyd for the parish job at Emmanuel in Columbus, a sister church to St. Paul, German Village, where Floyd first scattered the weed seeds of Church Growth. The Glende boys grew up there, nurtured in false doctrine, Masonic lodgery, and Scriptural divorces.
WELS was officially done with Floyd, so the Little Sect on the Prairie found him a delight. Pastor John Shep (ELS, Thoughts of Faith; now ELCA) and ELS Pastor Jay Webber and ELS Pastor Roger Kovaciny were happy to work with Stolzenburg. Kovo spoke at Emmanuel and became that congregation's official missionary, with newsletters printed about his daring deeds in the Ukraine and the many ways Emmanuel did God's work for Him in Rusky-land.
Most would think this was embarrassing for all involved, but they were shameless. Thoughts of Faith and the ELS arranged a matching grant for Floyd, to glorify his name in the Ukraine - Floyd's, not God's.
And on it goes. Murder, adultery, preying upon children. The ugly truth is far worse than anything in this post. Zehms is now a member of Jeske's church, and people think the big problem is Jeske's affiliation with the LCMS!
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The NNIV Process
From California:
The tragedy is twofold for not only do the resisters of approving NNIV need to oppose the NNIV, but also to understand and OPPOSE the system with which the synod uses to defeat them by:
1. wearing the NNIV opponents down with never ending facilitated meetings and discussions,
2. Isolating dedicated opposition when it becomes obvious they won't be "brought around"
3. Including softer opposition as a minority position but including it in a final predetermined "consensus" document.
Everyone thinks he has had a "say" in the final consensus, but has had no influence on the final outcome. The process is right out of the plethora of the "how to" manuals for change agents.
So fighting the NNIV with everything they have, will be within the constricts of all of the above. Having gone through the process, and having been either neutralized or isolated, then what? Reluctantly live with the NNIV or leave WELS.
Or going "completely passive" avoiding the dialectical system, and "letting WELS finish its self -destruction", then what? If or when the NNIV is consensually approved WELS has already been self destructing by passively accepting the "old NIV" and using it for more than a quarter of a century with an entire generation knowing nothing else. The tragedy is that the "old NIV" would probably be defended with everything the opponents of NNIV have if the issue were one of NIV or NNIV.
Either way, this controversy could be a godsend to give some courage and spine to reject all of the progeny the revisions and revisions of revisions since the committee commissioned in 1880's to update the English of KJV without replacing any of the manuscript evidence it translated was hijacked by the change agents of the day with different manuscript evidence. EVERY revised and contrived translation since then has used the different family of manuscript evidence to one degree or another since....even NKJV.
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Part II from Califonia
I can't say that any advice I can contribute is based entirely on "experience with WELS". It also includes many years of researching the subject of the "Process" which I discovered during battles with the government schools systems in late 1960's at the beginning of the planned deliberate dumbing down or "unfreezing of the system" in the secular arena. It was that experience and acquired knowledge of how the process works, which allowed me to recognize it when WELS adopted it (PPBS) at convention of 1967. I could see the process being used to dispatch the KJV to the wastebin of history, resulting in the eventual unofffical-official acceptance of NIV.
The process itself was one of the objections which fell on ears which could not accommodate the idea that men of WELS could possibly be party to such a system as I described. To suggest such a thing was to disrespect the pastors and leaders. The process was but one of several subjects about which I could not go along to get along...which at the time were, The Bible translation issue, the government grants to WELS schools, Humanist methodology being assimilated at MLC, and PPBS (the process of decision making, more than simply a different financial accounting system which is what it how it was described to inquirers).
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GJ - California has a lot of good advice, based on her experience with WELS. The tradition of double-talk is so embedded in the clergy that I doubt they will escape it. Someone pretends to be a conservative, leads followers along, then pushes them off the cliff. SP Schroeder just did that, as Gurgle did before him.
The truth is, WELS "conservatives" could not lead six drunks to men's restroom at Hooters. They would be too busy worrying about how that might break one of the 10,000 unwritten rules of the sect.
Let the Process, er, ah, um Continue To Process
One approach is to fight the NNIV, but the Intrepids are more likely to switch than to fight. In fact, the group is already managed by Schroeder, who keeps them on a short leash, unlike the Changers, who have no leash but a direct line to the offering, foundation, and Thrivent money.
Letting the Intrepids fuss among themselves is a pressure-relief valve. The group is salted with minders who derail discussions and keep the spin doctor up to date about potential threats.
District by district, WELS will divide and conquer.
The only realistic alternatives are:
- Fight the NNIV, face-to-face, every possible moment.
- Go completely passive, avoid all meetings and discussions, and let WELS finish its self-destruction.
Nepotism Is Toxic in Synods Too
"No son, I am extending the Left Foot of Fellowship to you.
Possibility Thinking."
LA Times:
Currently serving on the board are Schuller; his wife, Arvella; daughter and senior pastor Sheila Schuller Coleman; son-in-law Jim Penner; and five independent members. Schuller Coleman serves as a non-voting member and interim chairwoman.
The new board comes weeks after a controversy erupted when Schuller's son, Robert Anthony Schuller, said his father had been ousted from the board. The deciding votes came from Rick Mysse, a former official with the cathedral's governing body, and Gwyn Myers, the church's former financial consultant.
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