ICHABOD, THE GLORY HAS DEPARTED - explores the Age of Apostasy, predicted in 2 Thessalonians 2:3, to attack Objective Faithless Justification, Church Growth Clowns, and their ringmasters. The antidote to these poisons is trusting the efficacious Word in the Means of Grace. John 16:8. Isaiah 55:8ff. Romans 10. Most readers are WELS, LCMS, ELS, or ELCA. This blog also covers the Roman Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodoxy, and the Left-wing, National Council of Churches denominations.
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| Jim Aderman is another Church and Changer speaking at Luther Days. |
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| Natalie Pratt - Event Coordinator - Facebook Photo |
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| This is called a non-profit LLC, but it is not registered in Wisconsin and there is no such thing as a "non-profit LLC" in that state. |
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| Read the article linked here about Brian Arthur Lampe. Webber will share the spotlight with him - but cannot see the UOJ Church Growth Babtist connection. |
This is what we do on a daily basis..tracking hackers...plus every other imaginable computer or Internet crime. Therefore, I work with law enforcement agencies and prosecutors throughout the US. The discussion up to this point is true in theory. However, we always work back and trace to the originating hacker. It is very common for the hacker to use a third party computer to shield his activity. They may think that they are getting away with it, but in reality...we can still track them down just as quickly. They can run, but they can't hide! In fact, I'm working a case very similar to this right now for a nonprofit agency here in WI. The stalker is hacking into a 3rd party's computer, and sending viruses and Trojans in an effort to destroy the computer system at the non-profit agency. I spent an hour on the phone with the police yesterday, and they have no interest in the third party's role, they want us to pin it on the originating stalker. And, we have. The third party has been cleared and is out of the picture. And, if that should ever happen to anyone on this list, where your computer system is being accused of being a party to the attack, give me a call, I'll personally help you prove your innocence. I'm not trying to discourage any one from having a risk assessment done, or on file for future situations, it is a good idea especially if you are a large corporation. However, as a church, if you are on budget restraints, I would not go out of your way to try and find the funds to put that in place. Our office has done many risk assessments for businesses, and if anyone does have a concern or wants to run something past me, please feel free to either email (natalie.pratt at tecrime.com) or call (920-424-9960) me. (No, this isn't a sales pitch...I won't charge anything). But, I have worked on the computers of many many WELS pastors and churches, and I am pretty familiar with what is out there in a lot of churches, and I'll be able to give you a good idea on what to do. And, what kind of plan you should have in place or preventative measures that you can take now, based on your particular system. Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions or concerns about this. Natalie ___________________________ Natalie Pratt - WI License #10327 Director of Investigations WI Agency License #16037 TeCrime International, Inc. 683 N Main St. Suite E Oshkosh, WI 54901 Phone: (920) 424-9960 - Fax: (920) 424-9970 www.tecrime.com - natalie.pratt at tecrime.com
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| Jar Jar Webber has won the Most Annoying MDiv Award, because the STM from an online ELCA seminary does not count. Buchholz endorsed the booklet. |
Pastor Rolf David Preus (Rolf) Senior Member Username: Rolf Post Number: 8878 Registered: 5-2001 |
Why wouldn't you consider it to be a good thing that those WELSians in the ELS allowed themselves to be instructed, and elevated in their theology, by a better document?Such arrogance! I remember talking to Schmeling about your offices within the office silliness during the ELS ministry debate and he opined that you wrote that sort of stuff to get the Missourians to accept the WELS position. He was right. But you still don't know it. That's sad! The ELS document is pure WELS. But you pretend that somehow Kurt Marquart had an influence on it because you were successful in tacking onto it some terminology that Marquart had used. After the leadership of the ELS suggested in 2005 that those in the synod who were "teachable" wouldn't be disciplined if they didn't immediately accept the newly adopted document, a number of us guys bought T shirts with "The Unteachables" on the front. I can't remember whose idea it was, but I thought it was a clever idea at the time. In retrospect, Jay, it is you who is unteachable on this subject. Everyone but you knows that in 2005 the ELS bought the WELS position and made it her own. You can pretend that the ELS has "instructed" the WELS and "elevated" the WELS position, but nobody in the WELS cares about what the ELS document says as long as it stays in conformity with the official WELS doctrine which, by virtue of the WELS/ELS fellowship, is normative for the ELS. I have a theory about this. It really has nothing to do with theology and everything to do with culture. The WELS is about as Midwestern as you'll find, while you're from out east. So you like pretty stuff whereas they eat cannibal sandwiches. They'll tolerate you because they know that when you strip away the high church silliness, the intellectual posing, and other features of east coast American Lutheranism, WELS is WELS no matter what clothes it's wearing. So you serve a useful purpose as an advocate of the W/ELS doctrine among folks who like pretenses to catholicity. Not that the WELS guys give a rip about that sort of thing, but they know that others do and you just might con a stray and uninformed Missourian now and then. Your position and the position of Thomas Nass are identical. The only difference is that he is much more straightforward in how he presents it. And Jay, the notion that you can instruct and elevate him is really too much! Pastor Rolf David Preus |
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| "You lost how much money from the Foundation? You must be WELS. They have the magic touch. Ask the MilCraft widow, who took WELS to court." |
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