R. Schultz on Denominational Leaders

rlschultz has left a new comment on your post "Joe Krohn Touches on the Real Issue: Not Only Fals...":

It is difficult for some laity to believe that denominational leaders can be so brutal and dishonest. They may falsely assume that their sect will protect from the evil world which lurks outside the church walls. Carnal sins are certainly capable of ultimately producing unbelief, when left unchecked by the proper use of Law and Gospel.

Staying busy with church work can produce a type of complacency where private study of the Word is substituted with busy work. Congregational operation should be orderly and decent, but not just for the sake of the congregation. Larger congregations always run the risk of producing cliques and yes-men. Satan would much rather deceive with false doctrine from leaders than with pet sins.
There used to be a time when we were often reminded that sanctification always follows justification:
Bane and blessing, pain and pleasure
by the Cross are sanctified.

Now, we get how-to __________ Bible studies instead of study of the Lutheran Confessions.

I am convinced that many leaders are afraid that if more laity studied the BOC, their little fiefdoms would fall apart. Christians with doctrinal discernment would wield the Sword of the Spirit. Only the Holy Spirit, through the Means of Grace, can produce a fearless faith that will stand up to bullying, apostate leaders.

Joe Krohn Touches on the Real Issue: Not Only False Doctrine, But Unbelief

Copying is the highest form of flattery,
and Tim Glende copies with glee.

LutherRocks has left a new comment on your post "Church Status « Light from Light":

Glende, Ski and the DP are symptoms of the greater problem. Just as Patterson and his DP are symptoms. The root cause is the false doctrine being taught at the seminary. Their false view of justification enables your 'axis' to teach upside down evangelism which goes hand in hand with the emergent church model. The whole of the visible church is already prostituting itself with the state...that harlot from the Revelation of St. John.

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GJ - WELS, Missouri, and the Little Sect on the Prairie have been in hot pursuit of false doctrine because the efficacy of the Word in the Means of Grace has been taught out of them. They have no trust in the Gospel itself, so a large group of professors and synodical drones are de facto unbelievers. That explains their obnoxious, brutal, and deceitful behavior, whether we are talking about Pope John the Malefactor in the ELS, the real estate moguls in the LCMS, or the disgraceful DPs and their helpless leader.

All of them would protest that they really are believers but their actions teach otherwise. I have used this blog to show the isolated and alienated that they are not alone. This is not only a pan-Lutheran problem but also a pan-denominational problem. The extent of the depravity is shown by the way the vast majority tolerate the evil.

True, 10% of the ELCA members have left already, but that should really be 90 to 98%. ELCA is crowing "Full Speed Ahead" in its magazine, because the Queen of the Seas is running at flank speed. The retired ELCA bishops are using a time machine to recreate the ALC and LCA of a few years ago, a more dilute form of poison.

The Olde Synodical Conference hangs its head in sorrow for the apostasy of ELCA, but they work closely with ELCA at many different levels. ELCA works with everyone, but so do the others. WELS has funded the United Nations and the Salvation Army.

All the Lutheran groups are mainline sects following the implicit Universalism of Knapp. So nothing is left but law mongering. ELCA hammers the law in promoting political fads. Dysfunctional WELS ministers, who treat their members like dirt, are going to "transform their communities" with law-mongering borrowed from the open Enthusiasts, crackpots who despise the Gospel but love themselves.

ELCA bishops value ecumenical partners, consider critical mission topics - News Releases - Evangelical Lutheran Church in America

Don't cross the queen.

ELCA bishops value ecumenical partners, consider critical mission topics - News Releases - Evangelical Lutheran Church in America: " CHICAGO (ELCA) -


"We are exceedingly grateful" for the two churches' full communion partnership, the Most Rev. Dr. Katharine Jefferts Schori told the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA) Conference of Bishops during its meeting here Sept. 29-Oct. 4.

The ELCA Conference of Bishops is an advisory body of the church that includes the ELCA's synod bishops, presiding bishop and secretary.

Jefferts Schori, presiding bishop of the 2.4 million-member Episcopal Church, spoke to ELCA bishops about the ecumenical opportunities for shared mission work."

'via Blog this'

Spaude Turns Down Michigan Lutheran Seminary. Tim Glende Would Be a Good Candidate

Tim Glende could be a shepherd of tender youth.
Here is he advising Katy Perry on how to dress more modestly.

Michigan Lutheran Seminary The Rev. Timothy Spaude of St. Jacobi Lutheran Church, Greenfield, Wisconsin, announced to his congregation Sunday, October 9, that the Holy Spirit has led him to decline our governing board’s call for him to become the next president of Michigan Lutheran Seminary. The governing board called Pastor Spaude at its September 9 fall meeting on campus. The MLS Governing Board will meet by teleconference next week, probably on Tuesday, October 18, to issue another call from its list of candidates.

Ask an Expert from Fuller Seminary: The WELS Fuller Experts Know This - They Never Went to Fuller!

AC V has left a new comment on your post "Rick Techlin Situation Shows Pathetic Wobble of WE...":

This is interesting:

My Take: This evangelical says Mormonism isn’t a cult

Editor’s note: Richard J. Mouw is President of Fuller Theological Seminary, an evangelical school in Pasadena, California.

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/09/my-take-this-evangelical-says-mormonism-isnt-a-cult/?hpt=hp_t2

Rick Techlin Situation Shows Pathetic Wobble of WELS: Tim Glende, Ski, and Doug Englebrecht as Enthusiasts

Mark Jeske is driving this bus.

Brett Meyer has left a new comment on your post "Church Status « Light from Light":

Certainly shows how split the entire Synod is in doctrine and practice. Glende and Patterson have simply been teaching and acting as they've been taught in the (W)ELS college and Seminary. Just as the current students will when they get their chance at exercising excellence in making disciples. It's also been a great example at just how impotent the Synod administration, clergy and laity are in dealing with the doctrine and practice of the Baptists, Methodists and New Age Religion in their churches. What a pathetic display.