rlschultz has left a new comment on your post "Failure to Supervise at WELS Headquarters. Failure...":
The Texas and Appleton gangs would have egg all over their faces if they tried to sneak in a couple of cheap shots. Child pornography has a way of sickening most decent folks. Even in the secular realm, ideas separate the men from the boys. When you care more about your bragging rights that you have by running with big dogs, you will make a vain attempt to defend the indefensible. On the flip side of this, take a look at the pastors and laity who oppose the church and changers. They may read Luther and the BOC and get laughed at for doing so. They trust that the Means of Grace will accomplish the Lord's will. Because of this, they are viewed as fuddy duddies for not embracing the latest CG fads.
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GJ - President Clinton's felonies did not surprise me because I saw the same tactics employed in the Michigan District of WELS, by officers of the district and the District Mission Board. When the DP's buddy got in trouble for adultery, he was allowed to lie his way out of his parish call and get appointed head of a WELS nursing home. DP Mueller lied to the pastor's wife and congregation about the sudden change. The WELS pastor who discovered the scandal was punished for it. That was just one episode. Columbus was exponentially worse.
Various sources have told me about WELS church workers molesting minors, boys and girls. DP Ed Werner went to state prison for it, but that was hushed up too. Herman Otten does spin for WELS - he spiked the story on Scott Zerbe put in the Michigan state prison for having an affair with a minor girl. The supervising pastor was Fred Adrian, who lied about his knowledge of the affair. Good ol' Fred was chairman of the District Mission Board, and he is still serving a parish, brought back by DP John Seifert.
WELS told the court they never had a scandal before Zerbe, had no knowledge of such things. They lied to the court, which is a felony. The judge forced them to provide a list of atrocities committed by WELS church workers. The jury found against WELS because of that list, but Adrian wrote his parish (I paraphrase) - "That is no problem. Insurance will pay for it."
I can name five locations where WELS workers sexually abused minors, even though I am not on the secret memo list of the DPs. That is why I expected another debacle to unfold in the future.
The ELS is as pure as the driven slush. They backed Floyd Luther Stolzenburg when WELS got tired of courting him. UOJ expert Jay Webber was not unwilling to take money from Floyd's Masonic CG congregation and have Roger Kovaciny preach there. "There is nothing I can do about it," he wrote, familiar words.
One ELS pastor objected to his sect putting a known WELS adulterer back into the ministry. His boss said, "This is none of your business."
So WELS and the ELS have been buying the Hochmuth scandal on the installment plan, squelching each report of a crime against children, lying to the public, the congregations, and the church workers. The criminals got the message - "The worse I am, the more they will fight for me. They spoke up for Al Just murdering his wife and buried the evidence about Tabor."
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rlschultz has left a new comment on your post "Texas and Appleton WELS Gangs - Wary of Taking Che...":
In 1961, the pastor of my WELS congregation was quickly defrocked for committing adultery with a parishioner. Her husband went to the DP, who was Carl Mischke. The WELS definitely has taken a turn for the worse in the past 50 years.
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GJ - Antinomianism was moving toward the Omega Point in the 1980s. As I wrote before, Appleton's The CORE is the bastard child of Columbus WELS in the 1980s. The godfather of scoffing at marriage and the Confessions is still in a pulpit in Columbus and still working with Roger Kovaciny.
Why would these scandals not move downward to child abuse on a large scale?
The Sausage Factory has no trouble with a DUI-convicted professor of worship manning the cash bar at their worship conference, hosted by ELCA. Everyone is at risk with these thugs in charge.
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