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The synod minders got to Polluted WELS and got him to be nice instead of honest. Now the site reads like the blog for the Campfire Girls. Are they allowed in WELS? I hope not. Pure unionism there.
I'm appreciating this thread, and the positive ideas that have been presented. My suggestion, if you wish to continue having beneficial conversation, is that you distance yourself from Greg Jackson. His posts (as demonstrated here) will do nothing but lower the overall quality of your blog. Jesus said we will know his followers by their fruit. Greg brings only division.
Gregory Jackson said...
Cowardly Anonymouse - Jesus spoke of separating the sheep from the goats. And He said He came not to bring peace but the sword, and to divide one against the other. And Paul said there must be divisions, to separate the good from the bad. But some of your want your abusive Pietism, and you will keep it in the name of Holy Mother WELS, GA, group gropes, and alcoholism.
Mr. Overhill - I believe you are correct. I believe totally in the power of the Word, and that includes its proper and true exegesis, i.e. the Book of Concord. IF - wow what a HUGE word - but IF even a good percentage, say 25 to 30% of WELS Pastors and churches would study, really study, the Bible and Confessions TOGETHER, there would either be reform in the WELS, or the WELS would split - one or the other.
But I don't think either will happen, because I don't think anything close to a healthy percentage of pastors and churches will really dig into their true Lutheran and Biblical heritage. That is considered "looking back" by most of our peers. There is simply too much fear of having to work for a living, to punch a clock and be under a real boss, that most WELS pastors will do anything, or do nothing, in order to preserve their current situations and lifestyles. That's just the way it is.
b-t-w: I'm shown here as tlcsvaz, but in case anyone doesn't know, I am Rev. Fr. Steven D. Spencer, Pastor of Trinity Orthodox Lutheran Church of Sierra Vista, AZ; wearer of clerical collars, black gowns, beffchen, and chasubles, follower of TLH pg. 5 and 15 liturgies, hanger of Icons, user of ashes and incense, practitioner of Private Confession & Absolution; heretic-hunter even back in seminary, founder, publisher, and Director of the Orthodox Lutheran Forum, Inc.(1988 to present), co-founder of Intrepid Lutherans, Founder and Chairman of the Confessional Lutheran Ministerium of the Southwest, and all-around synod gadfly and pest to DPs. I for one don't want to be thought of as anonymous. Life is too short to spend time hiding under a rock!
But I don't think either will happen, because I don't think anything close to a healthy percentage of pastors and churches will really dig into their true Lutheran and Biblical heritage. That is considered "looking back" by most of our peers. There is simply too much fear of having to work for a living, to punch a clock and be under a real boss, that most WELS pastors will do anything, or do nothing, in order to preserve their current situations and lifestyles. That's just the way it is.
b-t-w: I'm shown here as tlcsvaz, but in case anyone doesn't know, I am Rev. Fr. Steven D. Spencer, Pastor of Trinity Orthodox Lutheran Church of Sierra Vista, AZ; wearer of clerical collars, black gowns, beffchen, and chasubles, follower of TLH pg. 5 and 15 liturgies, hanger of Icons, user of ashes and incense, practitioner of Private Confession & Absolution; heretic-hunter even back in seminary, founder, publisher, and Director of the Orthodox Lutheran Forum, Inc.(1988 to present), co-founder of Intrepid Lutherans, Founder and Chairman of the Confessional Lutheran Ministerium of the Southwest, and all-around synod gadfly and pest to DPs. I for one don't want to be thought of as anonymous. Life is too short to spend time hiding under a rock!
