From Anonymouse: This has got to be a new low, even for you. You admit that you know nothing about this situation other than what you read in the St. Peter newsletter. As far as you know, this has absolutely nothing to do with the Core. Yet you print this story with your little photoshopped picture designed to make Pastor Glende and Ski look as ridiculous as you possibly can (What, you've never looked silly having a good time at a restaurant?) and hint that it has something to do with St. Peter's relationship with the Core. On the record: I have no Idea why Pastor Christenson asked for a call out of St. Peter AND YOU DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA EITHER! I really don't know how you can live with yourself or sleep at night.
"Lord, Lord, didn't I maintain a church on the internet and mercilessly mock those who weren't (in my opinion) orthodox enough?"
"I never knew you!"
Above is the original silly photo, posted by Bishop Katie herself on Twitter. Shame on Katie!
The threesome attended a pastoral conference on Mark Driscoll's home turf,
but no one owned up to being in Seattle for Driscoll.
GJ - Reading the tea leaves, I would say that the someone approved the departure of the new pastor after only a few months. The public record of Ron Ash and Tim Glende is clear - they are up to their necks in unionistic Church Growth. There is no possibility that the new pastor left because he was too growthy for that pair! Consider also the leaven of Ski and Katie, whose motto is: "No Enthusiast left behind." Another source confirmed that Glende and Ash are the cause, not the cure.
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The Appleton Dumpling Gang is well fed.
This PhotoShop was inspired by Glende's and Ski's lack of candor
about their trip to Seattle.
This cartoon made Wally Oelhaven furious,
but it sure fits The CORE, Ski, Glende, Kati, and Ron Ash.
Ron Ash retired as the pastor of St. Peter, Freedom,
He still chairs the odious Church and Chicanery faction in WELS.
Floyd Luther Stolzenburg introduced Church Growth to St. Paul, German Village,when Tim Glende was an impressionable teen member there. Kicked out of the LCMS for cause, Stolzenburg was divorced by his wife, but WELS made him an overpaid CG guru - then Kuske and Schumann endorsed him for pastoral work.The apple does not fall far from the tree, does it?
But sometimes we just end up with The CORE!
Anonymouse has left a new comment on your post "St. Peter Freedom (The CORE Mother-Church) Loses S...":
Pretty hypocritical that it's OK for Confessional Crusaders to post anonymously. As long as it promotes your skewed agenda, right PJ? What a freaking double standard.
Run on sentences? Well that's typical criticism from someone who is narrow minded (or should I say closed minded) and needs to retake reading and comprehension. So if there's no real substance to criticize, lets (sic) nit pick (sic - nitpick is one word) grammar. Give me a break. Get a life.
Mighty Mouse [Most likely Tim Felt-Needs] But he denies it.
Tim loves to use the term "Confessional Crusaders."
Mequon graduates - click on this link for proof.
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Anonymous you write, "Lord, Lord, didn't I maintain a church on the internet and mercilessly mock those who weren't (in my opinion) orthodox enough?"
You imply that the problem you have with Pastor Jackson, and others who hold his convictions, is over his treatment of those they feel are not "orthodox enough".
Is there a level of orthodoxy that is less than 100% and yet remains 100% acceptable? What part of the unorthodox doctrines, actions or statements can someone critique or address? And since most of the unorthodox despise the Lutheran Confessions - is a quia subscription to the Lutheran Confessions even required in Lutheran churches anymore? Is a quatenus subscription to the Lutheran Confessions enough to be considered "orthodox enough"?
I would argue that this blog mocks false doctrine, false practice and unrepentant false teachers. To go easy on any of the above is to reject the supremacy of God's Word, pure doctrine, true practice and faithful teachers.
In Christ,
Brett Meyer
My point is not that it is wrong to criticize false teachers and point out false teaching. My point is that it veers over to sin when you put the worst construction on everything and then proceed to mock someone based on those bad assumptions. Oh, by the way, Ski maintains a quia subscription to the confessions and has a clearer explanation of close communion than almost any confessional Lutheran congregation that I have seen. Thanks for your concern. Oh, and GJ, you are wrong, I am NOT Anonymouse.
"Ski maintains a quia subscription to the confessions and has a clearer explanation of close communion than almost any confessional Lutheran congregation that I have seen."
That is a complete joke! What Confessional Lutheran would feel the need to frequent Babtist Enthusiast conferences as much as Ski and Katie? Not to mention copying Craig Groeschel sermons. I'm sure those sermons are just dripping with references to the efficacy of the Word and Sacraments!
I feel as if Christ would weep would he read anything on this BLOG. Regardless of doctrine, regardless of teaching, regardless of any comments, he wants people in heaven. He loves people and as we are to imitate him we must also show love. This BLOG doesn't.
Brett Meyer wrote,
"I would argue that this blog mocks false doctrine, false practice and unrepentant false teachers. To go easy on any of the above is to reject the supremacy of God's Word, pure doctrine, true practice and faithful teachers."
Yes, it mocks. Whatever you think going easy rejects, you reject love. We must strive to show love in all circumstances. You would rather beat dead horses and men who want to preach the Gospel.
Greg,
Just a point of order. You do ackowledge that indeed, I started the "Confessional Crusader" term over on Bailing Water and that in those discussions from awhile ago the term became a hit. I have to admit I have a little pride there that it has caught on.
However I would think you are smart enough to know that I would never:
- post anonymously. I would rather make sure my name is all over my posts. Here is a point where I agree with you. Posting anonymously is a wimpy, lame, weak thing to do.
- I would not attack your english or comprehension skills. Perhaps just your obsession with it in the Blogo Beer Hall of professional writing.
- I only comment on things related directly to me and organizations I know. I know Victory and I know St. Marcus because my family are members/students at both. I wouldn't comment about churches I don't know.
- on a smaller note I would never use "OK" in a sentence
- Lastly, I would never comment on posts related to any attending of baptist conferences or using Baptist sermon series. Have you ever wondered why I stay strangely silent on that topic? That is because I also believe that kind of thing is a pile of crap. I have no use for needing to borrow such things or learn from others. It gives a bad name to those who want to remain distinctly Lutheran while using blended worship. I agree that at a minimum it is lazy and at maximum extremely dangerous.
A sermon should derive from the text chosen for that week. The pastor wrestles with the text and creates a sermon from it. Not the Baptist way of creating a sermon and then finding some scripture to support it. At least I can post the sermon PDF and podcast every week with a clean conscience.
Please do a little more homework when you try to guess who wrote your comments.
Thanks,
Timothy Dean Niedfeldt
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Tim states, "It gives a bad name to those who want to remain distinctly Lutheran while using blended worship."
Tim, there's no such animal. The blender is full of Methodist, Universalist, Pentecostal, Roman Catholic doctrine and practice.
Brett Meyer
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