SpinnerQuest Bullies To Issue Calls and Certify People as Lutheran. However, They Still Oppose the Chief Article of Christianity.Therefore, They Are Not Even Christian

For the Calvinists on LutherQuest (sic).

Walter Raffel (Bluebird) (Walt) Intermediate Member Username: Walt Post Number: 226 Registered: 7-2004

Posted on Friday, July 20, 2018 - 4:20 pm:       Dave Schumacher. To make a statement that G. Jackson is not Lutheran is uncalled for. How can you make that statement. Have you read his books? Have you seen the Luther sermons that he has translated? [GJ - edited ] Be careful in what you state.

Alan Lubeck (1431) Senior Member Username: 1431 Post Number: 1701 Registered: 11-2004

Posted on Friday, July 20, 2018 - 5:19 pm:       Mr. Raffel, From my standpoint and confession, I'd consider Jackson to be a heterodox Lutheran. However, if someone is calling himself a pastor and is preaching and teaching/administering the Sacraments apart from a call to/from a congregation, I would consider that very problematic. I know I just can't make myself a pastor apart from a call, if that were to be my desire.

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GJ - These people cannot grasp the text of the New Testament or the essentials of the Confessions, but they want to sit in judgment in matters where they have no knowledge.

The superficiality of the website shows they have not progressed beyond twitter-style texts and unenlightened opinions.

Gideon Responds in Shock to the Confused Cascione Calvinists

I would add, once again:  What is their point of reference?  What are they trying to conserve?  Walther, Pieper, Preus?  Certainly not Luther.

Twin 1 - UOJ Enthusiast - "He was once pure as the driven snow, but he drifted."
Twin 2 - "Didn't he just publish nine volumes of Luther in one year?"

Pastor,

I hope this statement is tongue in cheek:

David Schumacher:  Whatever else Jackson may, or may not be, he is not Lutheran.  I don't believe he ever was.

Yet they partake of the same feeding bowl with the ELCA?  Never the less, if the above statement were true, one could safely conclude that Martin Luther and the rest of the Reformation fathers were not Lutherans either -- by their definition anyway.

This is simply a pretty stupid thing to say about someone, whose ministry includes publishing entire Luther sermons each week (so that nothing is taken out of context)....which is much more than can be said than their cafeteria Lutheranism.

Ichabod bleeds Luther.  I guess you have to revere Walther or Preus to to be more Lutheran.

SDG,

Gideon

A New Insight from SpenerQuest, Home of Numerology and UOJ.Robert Preus Once Wrote a Book Where He Repudiated Cascione, But Jack Never Read It, So Jack Wrote Second Numbers

 They try to look serious at SpenerQuest,
but their character comes through anyway.

Dave Schumacher (Lex) Senior Member Username: Lex Post Number: 1228 Registered: 6-2003

Posted on Friday, July 20, 2018 - 12:40 am:       Whatever else Jackson may, or may not be, he is not Lutheran. I don't believe he ever was.

Pastor Cascione (Cardinal) Intermediate Member Username: Cardinal Post Number: 417 Registered: 11-2004

Posted on Friday, July 20, 2018 - 10:43 am:       I think he was once absolutely straight arrow, but he is also a reactionary. If all the participants on Luther Quest railed against Objective Justification, he would eventually defend it. Robert Preus once told me that about Alvin Schmidt. When Schmidt was forced out of the Seminary and took a job at a college in (I think) Illinois, within five years he reversed course. I don't think we should try that experiment on Luther Quest.

Our Answer Cat Swats Away Obvious Conclusions about Fuller and UOJ

"When thorns grow on thistles, it is just a co-inky-dink."

Bizarre Youth Conference for ELCA - 30,000 Youth. The Conservative Lutherans Whine, But Gladly Work with ELCA for the Thrivent Loot!

 ELCA Pastor Nadia Bolz-Weber: count the paradoxes in this one photo.

Many people are posting about the ELCA Youth Rally of 30,000 kids. They have focused on the wrong enemy. The situation is far worse than they imagine, because their own LCMS-WELS-ELS leaders work with ELCA.

The giant holding company that controls 99.9% of all Lutherans in America is Thrivent.

1. The LCMS gets $50 - 60 million a year, so ELCA probably gets $100 million.
2. The WELS gets several million dollars.
3. The ELS gets free napkins. 
4. The CLC sic does a little with the insurance combine too, but they are deader and dummerer than the ELS, so who cares?

Thrivent makes sure they all work according to ELCA's standards (pro-abortion, women's ordination, pan-sexual). The smaller groups are cheerleaders for the same causes or almost there. Most importantly, the "conservatives" agree with ELCA about UOJ - the entire world is forgiven and saved.

From a layman:

The Thrivent rep at  a recent bridal show had three marketing brochures, one of which was  specifically aimed at marriage and protection for young couples.

The only 'married'  couple pictured in that marriage brochure was a lesbian couple. 

Wayne Mueller's Church and Change Ur Gender son organized this church picnic where the children put makeup on the male leaders of the congregation. Wayne's son wore a dress, just like the lay leaders. Matthew 7:15ff. The parish published the photos for everyone to see and copy.

WELS is ahead of ELCA by virtue of having their male students cross-dress at their prep schools, college, and seminary. The newest WELS DP was the GA Pope - in drag, of course.

 I witnessed the WELS GA hazing ritual called GA or HB,
and the GA Pope did his work in drag.

So let me spill some acid on the conservative Lutheran sanctimony about ELCA. Your leaders work with ELCA all the time, and you elect those leaders. Hoho, let's change things at the ballot box. The LCMS gave more votes to continue with ELCA than they did to elect Matt the Fatt the first time. QED - they love ELCA even more than they love Harrison.

If ELCA is so bad, why work with them? And if y'all want to work with ELCA so badly - why complain about them? 

 "Everybody knows the good guys lost
Everybody knows the fight was fixed...
Everybody knows that the boat is leaking
Everybody knows that the captain lied
Everybody got this broken feeling
Like their father or their dog just died."
Leonard Cohen, Everybody Knows

Advice from The Answer Cat

 "The ELS brought the Gospel to the Ukraine.
Take 15 million bucks, add a cheese factory and some blowhards. 
What? Since 988 AD? Nobody told us!"

Our Answer Cat Answers All Your Questions

"You don't like Walther's Calvinism?
You must be a Calvinist!"

Faith Is Not the Opposite of Grace

The Book of Concord

17] 3. That by His Holy Ghost, through the Word, when it is preached, heard, and pondered, He will be efficacious and active in us, convert hearts to true repentance, and preserve them in the true faith.

18] 4. That He will justify all those who in true repentance receive Christ by a true faith, and will receive them into grace, the adoption of sons, and the inheritance of eternal life. FC, SD, XI

GJ - The Quia Marias posture about their adherence to the Book of Concord, but their hearts and souls are pledged to the Calvinistic, Pietistic, rationalistic mutterings of CFW Walther.

They pit grace against faith, but the Quia Marias do not understand either one, so they copy and paste from Pieper, who was selected - not elected - to parrot Walther.

Sigmund Freud set up his disciples the same way. For that reason, no one is allowed honest research about Freud and his quack theories. They guard his archives and his myth - like a shrine.