Monday, February 23, 2009

Thou Shalt Not Steal
Maybe Mequon Should Close Too



Hmm. How am I going to teach that commandment?
The kids have googled my sermon series.
Ski is a follower of Craig Groeschel - from the very liberal Methodist and Disciples of Christ denominations.



Kelm got hired at The Love Shack for his skills in copy and paste.


Ichabodians, tell me you did not see it coming.

Paul Kuske and LPR were doing the Rock and Roll scene (badly) 20 years ago. Now The CORE emerges as a cruder, simpler, more childish version of all previous experiments. WELS is always experimenting with safe sects. In fact, so many pastors experimented with safe sects that they have left the Lutheran Church altogether to join their Babtist and Pentecostal brethren.

But do not be alarmed. You do not have to join another denomination now. You can join one of the WELS Church and Chicanery congregations across the synod. C and C is a non-geographical district managed by Church and Change/Parish Services.

Here is the proof.

Go to The CORE website, which is easy to remember:


http://www.gotocore.com

Look up: What will the pastor talk about this week?

The dates and topics are all lined up.

Starting on February 22nd, there are four on kaleo. I am guessing that Ski was not the best Greek student, since English itself is a foreign language for him. And using Greek in a sermon title is very Junior-year.

Oh wait. I found the exact same set of sermons here:

http://open.lifechurch.tv/series/3445

Week 1 Called to Care
Week 2 Called to Generosity
Week 3 Called to Serve
Week 4 Called to Make Disciples

And another set of The CORE sermons are at the same site:

http://open.lifechurch.tv/series/19

Week 1 The Pain of Loss
Week 2 The Pain of Suffering
Week 3 The Pain of Rejection

The pain series is exactly the same as the website's, in the same order.

Note the FAQs from the website:

General Questions
Q: What is LifeChurch.tv Open?

A: LifeChurch.tv Open is a site where churches can access, download and use creative content for free. It includes much of the creative work that the staff at LifeChurch.tv has done over the past few years and will be updated with new content going forward.

Q: What type of resources are available on this site?

A: The content includes, but is not limited to, message series artwork, themed videos that are used to promote and brand a series (provided in full resolution), message outlines, and layered graphic files.

Q: What does it cost?

A: Absolutely nothing. We do require that you agree to a license agreement (it's free) and that you use the content in a non-commercial manner in an effort to "lead people to become fully devoted followers of Christ." We do not want attribution (our name or brand to be on it). If we want anything it is to hear about how it impacted people in your church or community...please come back to the site and let us know.

Q: Why is LifeChurch.tv making this available for free?

A: We are passionate about changed lives and if there is even a chance that some of our creative content is useful to other churches in a effort to reach people for Christ....we are extremely excited about the opportunity to make it all available.


Q: So I don't have to mention that I got this from LifeChurch.tv?

A: That's right. You can use the content in your church and we actually perfer that you do not give us credit. Basically, you can pretend it's your own.

Q: Can I get it sent to me in on a DVD or CD or something else that I can hold in my hand?

A: No. We are only providing this content throught this website for you to download. It is free, and we are not able to mail or send it to you in another format (even if you were willing to pay us). Sorry if this is an inconvenience, but it is the only way that we can provide it to everyone and still stay focused on the vision that God has called us to.

Q: Is there any "fine print" in the license agreement?

A: Not that we are aware of, but PLEASE do read the license.

Q: What if I do not like any of the content you have available?

A: That's OK. We hope some of it is useful to others, but don't expect the content to be something that everyone will like. You can also come back in the future, maybe there will be something new that will work.

Q: Are there any copyright issues with the audio libraries that you use in your creative content?

A: Unless there is something that we overlooked, we have specifically procured (paid above our normal license fees) all the necessary licenses from any audio libraries, etc. used in our resources. This is not only for distribution of the resources that include them, but also for the rebroadcast of those items as long as they are not used for commercial purposes as we require in our license.

Q: Can I edit the video teaching messages that I download?

A: No. The video teaching downloads cannot be edited and must be used in their entirety. You can modify the videos to playback on different formats, but you cannot otherwise edit the teaching videos. This restriction helps us ensure that parts of the message are not taken out of their original context or intent. Thank you for understanding.

Q: How do I download complete message file to a DVD?

A: To burn the image directly to a DVD, you will need to install third party software that is capable of understanding and burning image (img or iso) files. Most popular DVD burning software include support for burning images.

If you do not currently own any commerical software that supports this function (e.g. Nero, Roxio), then you can download a freeware program that will burn the DVD image to disc. Please consult the vendor-specific documentation for further assistance in burning the image to disc.


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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Thou Shalt Not StealMaybe Mequon Should Close Too":

Wow. Thanks for the research.

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GJ - I am wondering, "Why waste all that money on The Sausage Factory when the graduates are just copying sermons from the websites of false teachers - without any discipline."

Only recently Kelm gave a paper at Mequon on how to improve seminary education. He is an example of their complete failure.

This Just In - From the Church and Chicanery Grapevine



This is one of the nodes of the Church and Chicanery grapevine.
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District VP Don Patterson organized the trip to see Brother Stetzer at the pan-multi-denominational Emerging Church fest.


Joe Krohn, who is best buds with Patterson, bragged that Doebler is OK with the Conference of Pussycats, that Rock and Roll got another grant.

The grapevine tells me the grant from the Antioch Foundation was not as juicy as applied for. Rock and Roll got $20,000, which was either 20% or only 10% of what they applied for. Doubtless they studied the grantsmanship lessons hard at the last Church and Chicanery conference. But alas, Antioch is not Texas-oriented and everyone is short on cash.

So maybe Joe was providing spin on the Rock and Roll story.

I can never remember the exact URL of Rock and Roll, so I use the original URL, churchfromscratch.net. That still goes automatically to the fancy-dancy website.

Ski's is even fancier, with Flash movies.

Both WELS pastors are copying sermons series from non-Lutherans. But that is not news, is it?

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From one leader of Church and Change, more snarkiness:

Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "This Just In - From the Church and Chicanery Grape...":

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WELS Votes Oscars for Worst New Mission...Ever



The CORE goes multi-Oscar in WELS. Read below.


Anonymous said...
Some say spelling and grammar are no longer relevant...maybe Reverend Ski really is in touch.


Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Whoopy-Worship: Best Learned at Non-Denominational...":

If WELS allows this place to continue as one of their 'churches', I believe that is going to be the last straw for me and my family. I wouldn't have to travel 20 miles to my nearest WELS church. There's an Assembly of God just down the street and I can go there and save the gas. I am watching this place and mostly Synod's reaction to it very closely. It's going to tell us all if they are serious about cleaning their house or just turning it over to the squatters.


Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Whoopy-Worship: Best Learned at Non-Denominational...":

The man in love with false teachers of all kinds. At the same time, he despises orthodox teachers. (Deutschlander was presenting at the pastors' conference for which Ski commented: "Ugh!" Apparently skipping Deutschlander to go to sit at the feet of a heretic wasn't enough. Now he has to say "ugh" to Deutschlander's presentations, too.) He loves the worship and methods devised by false teachers who do not know or understand the means of grace. He fawns over their writings. So Why should I be stupid enough to believe that Ski is orthodox? Does he rilly thinck everywon else is as stewpid as he is?


Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Whoopy-Worship: Best Learned at Non-Denominational...":

"Ugh! Pastor's conference."

Ugh! THE CORE.


Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Whoopy-Worship: Best Learned at Non-Denominational...":

-How can he fit his Enthusiastic church into the parameters of the WELS-

The question should be WHY would he want to? Why not go find whatever flavor of church wants this stuff and blend in over there?


Norman Teigen has left a new comment on your post "WELS Church and Change Mission Check-List":


I thought that this was funny. Of course, if my mug were posted I probably wouldn't think it so funny. You have probably found a few [new?] career, that of satirist.


Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Whoopy-Worship: Best Learned at Non-Denominational...":

this guy has got to go! reminds me of a clock on my wall...cuckcoo, cuckcoo


Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Whoopy-Worship: Best Learned at Non-Denominational...":

Hey Ski... if you want to 'do church' at your imax theater.. knock your socks off, Ski! No ushers to stop you from anything you want to do on your so-called alter or aisles. You'll answer for this abomination some day. i just hope and pray you're not getting a single penny of the rank and file's hard-earned offerings.


Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Whoopy-Worship: Best Learned at Non-Denominational...":

He seems proud of his friends outside the WELS fellowship. Wonder when the last time he talked to President Schroeder about this project and got his thoughts on it. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that most of his fellow WELS pastors must be shaking their collective heads at this. You know, maybe it's not a bad idea to close MLS afterall. If this is the kind of pastors they're churning out over there, I say shut it down! How can he fit his Enthusiastic church into the parameters of the WELS. Isn't there a Baptist or Pentecostal church somewhere that can take this clown off our hands??


Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Whoopy-Worship: Best Learned at Non-Denominational...":

I don't think Reverend Ski is a suitable representation of either the graduates of MLS nor of the residents of his former home--the Michigan District.

The only thing more Northern Wisconsin than his doctrines and practice is his spelling.

This is what happens when a kid gets an associate pastor call to St. Marcus.


Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Whoopy-Worship: Best Learned at Non-Denominational...":

Anon @ 10:54 wrote:

"Isn't there a Baptist or Pentecostal church somewhere that can take this clown off our hands??"
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They took him off the hands of St. Peter's for many Sundays before The CORE was finished :-)


Anonymouse has left a new comment on your post "Whoopy-Worship: Best Learned at Non-Denominational...":

I wonder if all you WELS people commenting on this blog have addressed "Ski" porsonally (sic) about his unionism. If you haven't, you have no business talking about it on this rag.



Matthew 18 variation, revealing no knowledge at all about Matthew 18 in the Large Catechism, not to mention what the LC says about the Eighth Commandment and published false doctrine.


Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Whoopy-Worship: Best Learned at Non-Denominational...":

Anon @ 1:37PM wrote
I wonder if all you WELS people commenting on this blog have addressed "Ski" porsonally about his unionism. If you haven't, you have no business talking about it on this rag.
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I have. To no avail. Now are you going to weigh in on the matter or is a misapplication of the 8th commandment all you have to offer?


Anonymouse has left a new comment on your post "WELS Votes Oscars for Worst New Mission...Ever":

You are misrepresenting what the Large Catechism is saying about the 8th Commandment, Greg, and that's what condemns you! Yes, public offense should be corrected publicly, but IT HAS TO BE MADE TO THE INDIVIDUAL WHO IS COMMITTING THE OFFENSE. You have no idea if Ski is reading your rag or not. If I were to start a gossip blog and talk to everyone about Greg Jackson and his past public sins (yes, you do have some, and you know it), but you didn't read my blog--that would not be public admonition. That would be gossip and a breaking of the 8th Commandment. The shoe fits--are you going to put it on before it's too late?

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GJ - Actually, Mouse, or Joe, I do know he is reading it. He tweated his pals about someone who wrote about him and asked him to be a friend on Facebook. That dude could only be me. You are certainly getting the Large Catechism wrong. Luther's point was that he did not have to sit down with the Antichrist, hold his hand, and tell him why he was wrong. What is published can be addressed publicly, and Ski just cannot stop blabbing in public. Ski is doing WELS a favor, because he says openly what the rest of Church and Chicanery says secretly.

And by the way, a group of pastors went to see Kelm about his false doctrine. Kelm made it very clear he was not moving off his Deformed stance. I published Church and Chicanery list-serve material showing that Kelm would not even listen to the kindest possible words, the pleading requests, of fellow pastors about the Leonard Sweet invitation. In fact, he announced he would no longer answer any communication about Sweet.

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The Indicators - Do I Have the Right Website?



The Indicators seem to be lapsed South Babtists.


On You Tube.


Ski and Company bragged ton Twitter hat The Indicators went back to Kentucky after performing for The CORE.

Slow Monday. The Indicators head back to KY and some much needed rest for The CORE
staff.


Is this the group?

I have linked that website, but I am not sure it is the right one. I do not want to copy the content. Please prove me wrong, someone.

A doctor of divinity has informed me that my googled guess was correct:

Leaving the ski's hands down the best people in the world. We love them and the copious amounts of cheese we just purchased!
about 4 hours ago from twitterrific

watching the oscars 4 hours late...appleton, wi style. after kicking off the core in style. the core a church you actually want to go to.
about 15 hours ago from web


The three (3) followers are:

pastorski


kstrandlund


DCFF / Derby City Film Fest



Media page

When watching any video that The Indicators have made, it is safe to assume that it contains extreme content. If you can't/shouldn't handle that, please don't click on anything, turn off your computer and go watch Oprah. You have been warned.




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    Twitter:

    @theindicators so love that you are on twitter! going to bring some much needed laughter to my days!
    26 minutes ago from TweetDeck in reply to theindicators
    @BrewCrewBall amen to that! counting down for sure.
    about 2 hours ago from TweetDeck in reply to BrewCrewBall
    i don't think anyone comprehends what i've gotten myself into. definitely going to need the Lord's help to survive life the next few months!
    about 2 hours ago from TweetDeck

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    God is working around here: The Core, St. Matthew, in my home, my personal life, my family, the next few weeks God is going to something big
    12:06 PM Feb 19th from web

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    Jammin' for the Lamb at St Peters this weekend - can't wait!
    5 days ago from web
    @pastorski Do you see the light?! (from the Rev. James Brown)
    5 days ago from web in reply to pastorski
    @kstrandlund Welcome to the dark side.
    5 days ago from web in reply to kstrandlund
    @pastorski Now the tuning begins
    19 days ago from web in reply to pastorski
    Getting ready for work at 4:00 am. Can't wait to get everything nailed dowm with the sound at the CORE, the sound

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    Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "The Indicators - Do I Have the Right Website?":

    Only a legalist would take offense that these folks might have been at The Core. Heaven forbid they might hear the Word and be saved. Thankfully Christ did not take such a stance. He frequently supped with tax collectors and all kinds of characters of ill repute.

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    GJ - Christ did not allow people to mock the Word of God. He tossed the money-changers from the Temple area And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father's house an house of merchandise. KJV John 2:16

    And Paul -

    KJV 2 Corinthians 4:1 Therefore seeing we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we faint not; 2 But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God. 3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: 4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. 5 For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake. 6 For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.
  • WELS Church and Change
    Mission Check-List



    Wealthy donors. Check.



    Babtist training. Check.



    A movie theatre. Check.



    Free Wi-Fi. Check.



    Gourmet coffee. Check.



    A popcorn machine. Check.



    A rock band. Check.



    A full-time Executive Assistant. Check.



    Misuse of the Eighth Commandment and Matthew 18. Check.



    The leadership and sermons of Mark Driscoll. Check.



    WELS Parish Services, aka Church and Change. Check.


    Sunday, February 22, 2009

    Whoopy-Worship: Best Learned at Non-Denominational Sects



    WELS Pastor Paul Steinberg, now at St. Marcus - A Brett Favre jersey in the chancel area is far superior to a clerical collar and alb.
    Green Bay nostalgia trumps liturgics every time.



    From Ski's twitter...

    At Appleton Alliance for worssip thos morning. This is my 3rd time. It looks like I'll finally here Dennis Espiscopo preach. 6:00 AM Nov 30th, 2008 from twitterrific

    Pastor Paul doing church in a Brett Favre Packers jersey. Interesting. I thought Favre played for the Jets. 5:09 PM Nov 23rd, 2008 from twitterrific

    Groeschel: My church needs my leadership more than my preaching. Interesting thought. 11:46 AM Nov 20th, 2008 from twitterrific (I assume the lifechurch guy)

    Dave Brickey-Pathways Church -"I belive that the people who have the most to give are the people who have been hurt the most but moved on."

    Going to New Hope Lutheran Church this morning - LCMS doing contemporary worship.
    Just approved to take the A-Town pastors thru Stanley's 7 practices book in the fall. Tention already & I've only been here 20 weeeks. 9:14 AM Feb 2nd from twitterrific

    My wife just got up & danced down the aisle to "Follow The Yellow Brick Road". No ushers to tell her no. Did I mention I luv having an IMAX?

    Family Night for the Skis. I love having an IMAX for church. We are watching Wizard of Oz in my Church/IMAX. It is AWESOME!

    Ugh! Pastor's conference.
    12:24 PM Feb 17th from twitterrific

    One of the coolest things I've seen the culture God is creating at St. Peter's. Man their leadership gets it. You go Pastor Tim.
    6:33 AM Feb 15th from twitterrific

    Comment from a source:
    Nice that he can so openly admit to worshiping at Appleton Alliance. In fact, the one time he admits to worshiping at the WELS church he complains about it! Otherwise his twitter is all about the non-dom stuff in Appleton he's got to experience...good thing we now have a WELS non-dom so close.

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    GJ - The spell-check software burnt up over the posts above, so I left them alone.

    Twittering the Eighth




    Twitter

    @pastorski I guess I ment the entire 8th commandment. I was concentrating on the meaning this morning. Have a great day!

    about 13 hours ago from twitterrific in reply to pastorski
    @pastorski the CORE will be in my thoughts and prayers today. I'm thinking we should have the meaning of the 8th comnt. on the site

    @pastorski me thinks he wants to follow so as to find more to slam about..... On the otherhand our responses could show him this is working
    2 days ago from twitterrific in reply to pastorski

    Hold onto Your Latte: Ski Is a Follower of Mark Driscoll and a Beehive of Enthusiasts



    Ski's Twitter page shows that he follows Mark Driscoll of Mars Hill.


    Mark Batterson (Bio Lead Pastor of National Community Church (theaterchurch.com) in Washington, DC. Author of In a Pit with a Lion on a Snowy Day) is also being followed by Ski.

    Chad Jarnagin of Rolling Hills Community Church is also being followed. He is a singer, a song writer, and a dreamer.

    Ski is following Swerve (don't ask) who is heading for North Point Community Church for another addictive Andy Stanley event.

    Pastor Jim is also following Catalyst, which is the name of the Andy Stanley event. Were you as surprised as I was?

    Tim Stevens at Granger Community Church is being followed. I know, this is getting dull, but this a Who Zoo of the Missional Emergent Church radicals, and Ski follows them.

    Ski follows his executive assistant KStrandlund, who says: "Bio I keep things organized and running smoothly at The CORE." And - "never a dull moment. crazy busy friday, but so awesome to see it all coming together. God is doing crazy powerful things in a-town! 12:47 PM Feb 20th from TweetDeck

    He also follows Jon Ruddat from St. Matthew, who says, "thinking the Imax is too small for what God has in store for the CORE and pastor ski." 6:24 AM Feb 16th from web

    Someone from another Crossroads Community Church is following Ski.

    Paul Steinburg follows Ski - no shock registering yet. Paul wore a Brett Favre jersey to lead church recently. How cool is that?

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    GJ - What have we learned today, Ichabodians? Ski is following a bunch of whoopy-worship Enthusiasts, plus a few sports links. Who is following Ski? The WELS Church and Changers. Church and Change is a separate entity within the Wisconsin Sect, started with Wisconsin offering dollars, and working to absorb as money for their causes as possible, but always cloaking their moves.

    Information about THE CORE: Ski, aka Pastor Jim



    Anonymice endorse and defend The CORE.


    Press F5 repeatedly on this link for The CORE. As one movie character said, "Seven years of higher education down the drain."

    One comic bit involves making fun of the sermon, putting duct tape around his head to illustrate how "your pastor's sermons are too long." The suggestion is that Ski will amuse and entertain by continuing to disparage the Means of Grace. That is classic Church Growth Dreck* from the Cloaca Maxima* - Fuller Seminary.

    The church is in the news because the bankrupt theatre remains a local scandal. Lots of alternative churches already exist in the Appleton area. People are sorry the theatre flopped and left the city and the bank holding the bag.

    The theatre leased by Ski went bankrupt with over $4 million in debt. It is enormous. How can Ski afford the lights, let along the associated costs, like the lease itself?

    He has an executive assistant? Two salaries? How about that, mission pastors? Remember cranking out the newsletter, setting up the chairs, having wifey play hostess? We were all suckers. We needed some rich dudes and juicy grants for all the luxuries.

    Some local rich guys have ponied up the money for this experiment. My guess is that they are the people trying to make Church and Change continue as the management of WELS. As another rich guy said in starting a Church Growth experiment in a different town: I will show them how to do it.

    So if you wonder why worthwhile causes are being neglected - The CORE is the reason.

    But, self-centered spending is not limited to the Wi-Fi, coffee, IMAX theatre school of evangelism. Fox Valley High spent $18 million on their new campus, with a big emphasis on sports facilities. St. Mark Depere also tried monumental building, but failed at that, in spite of their denials.

    Mega-spending on buildings is an evangelism tool, according to some pastors and Robert Schuller.

    Mrs. Ichabod just said, "Didn't he just fire his son at Garden Grove?"

    Now I remember. Robert Schuller fired his son, who quit the church altogether. His empire is coming undone. Nice building, though. It reminds me of the Great Pyramid of Egypt, a proper tomb for a Pharaoh.

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    *Vocabulary List

    Dreck is German for... Let's move to the next word.

    The Cloaca Maxima was the great sewer in the ancient City of Rome.

    Earlier I confused this:


    Cloaca Maxima - the Great Sewer of Rome.


    with this:

    Cloaca Magna Avium: The Specialist on Guano

    Mice Fire Away



    "He is right over us. Fire for effect!"


    Reader:

    The anonymice are really coming out of the closet at Ichabod. It sounds like you are right above the target.

    Dude!




    Twitter

    Big Day. Our website goes online tonight at our web launch party. Should be a great day.

    about 9 hours ago from twitterrificSo Tweets here's the issue.

    Dude slams u repeatedly on blogs. But asks 2 b ur friend on f-book. Serious quandry. Help tweets. Advise please.
    4:12 PM Feb 20th from twitterrific

    ***

    GJ - My advice is accept. I have heard from WELS sources that Dude does not have a friend in the world, that he makes up all his comments, and that no one reads his blog.

    Luther Prep, WELS, RIP



    Originally billed as Northwestern University in Watertown,
    the WELS college for men going to seminary was absorbed
    by Dr. Martin Luther College in New Ulm.
    Northwestern Prep in Watertown got the remnants of Prairie,
    the little prep that couldn't.


    The word is out that Michigan Lutheran Seminary will be de-funded due to the financial meltdown in WELS.

    Luther Prep is the next to go, probably fairly soon.

    WELS will no longer form its budget based on huge pledges from a few people, but on the basic giving of the members. The pledge from a rich Canadian was rescinded when he had a meeting with his accountant. That blew up the current and future budgets.

    The two preps are the source of most students at Martin Luther College, so that may fold in the future. Parochial schools are fading fast, so the need for MLC is much smaller. MLC was once the school for the Minnesota Synod, which joined Wisconsin, left Wisconsin, and joined again.

    Bethany College and its one man seminary, Mankato, seems flush with funds. So is Wisconsin Lutheran College in Milwaukee, which started a pastoral prep track some time ago. As one friend told me, "I'll bet you didn't see that one coming!"

    Feel free to comment if some of these facts are off-target.


    Universal Objective Justification -
    Open Thread




    Bailing Water has had a discusson on Justification without Faith (UOJ). Feel free to comment here. I will keep the thread open. As long as comments are relatively polite and g-rated, I will let them through.

    Borrow From Red China To Pay For the Pork Bill



    From Maoist to begging on her knees before the Chinese.


    My Way News

    BEIJING (AP) - U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton wants China to continue investing in the United States because the two countries' financial futures are closely tied together.

    "I certainly do think that the Chinese government and central bank are making a smart decision by continuing to invest in Treasury bonds," she said during an interview Sunday with the popular talk show "One on One.""It's a safe investment. The United States has a well-deserved financial reputation."

    To boost the economy, the U.S has to incur more debt, she said, shortly before departing for Washington. "It would not be in China's interest if we were unable to get our economy moving," Clinton said. "So by continuing to support American Treasury instruments, the Chinese are recognizing our interconnection. We are truly going to rise or fall together. We are in the same boat and, thankfully, we are rowing in the same direction.

    "Our economies are so intertwined, the Chinese know that to start exporting again to their biggest market, namely the United States, the United States has to take some very drastic measures with this stimulus package, which means we have to incur more debt."

    Quinquagesima Sunday



    Sunflower by Norma Boeckler


    Quinquagesima Sunday

    Pastor Gregory L. Jackson

    http://www.ustream.tv/channel/bethany-lutheran-worship

    Bethany Lutheran Worship,
    8 AM Phoenix Time

    Mid-Week Lenten Services will be Wednesdays at 6 PM –
    starting Ash Wednesday, this week.


    The Hymn #657 Schoenster Herr Jesus
    The Confession of Sins
    The Absolution
    The Introit p. 16
    The Gloria Patri
    The Kyrie p. 17
    The Gloria in Excelsis
    The Salutation and Collect p. 19
    The Epistle and Gradual 1 Cor. 13:1-13
    The Gospel Luke 18:31-43
    Glory be to Thee, O Lord!
    Praise be to Thee, O Christ!
    The Nicene Creed p. 22
    The Sermon Hymn #376 Toplady

    The Scriptural Meaning of Love

    The Hymn #310 St. Michael
    The Preface p. 24
    The Sanctus p. 26
    The Lord's Prayer p. 27
    The Words of Institution
    The Agnus Dei p. 28
    The Nunc Dimittis p. 29
    The Benediction p. 31
    The Hymn #50 New Ulm (by Reuter)

    KJV 1 Corinthians 13:1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. 2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. 3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing. 4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, 5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; 6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; 7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things. 8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. 9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. 10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. 11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. 13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

    KJV Luke 18:31 Then he took unto him the twelve, and said unto them, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished. 32 For he shall be delivered unto the Gentiles, and shall be mocked, and spitefully entreated, and spitted on: 33 And they shall scourge him, and put him to death: and the third day he shall rise again. 34 And they understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken. 35 And it came to pass, that as he was come nigh unto Jericho, a certain blind man sat by the way side begging: 36 And hearing the multitude pass by, he asked what it meant. 37 And they told him, that Jesus of Nazareth passeth by. 38 And he cried, saying, Jesus, thou Son of David, have mercy on me. 39 And they which went before rebuked him, that he should hold his peace: but he cried so much the more, Thou Son of David, have mercy on me. 40 And Jesus stood, and commanded him to be brought unto him: and when he was come near, he asked him, 41 Saying, What wilt thou that I shall do unto thee? And he said, Lord, that I may receive my sight. 42 And Jesus said unto him, Receive thy sight: thy faith hath saved thee. 43 And immediately he received his sight, and followed him, glorifying God: and all the people, when they saw it, gave praise unto God.

    Quinquagesima Sunday

    Lord God, heavenly Father, who didst manifest Thyself, with the Holy Ghost, in the fullness of grace at the baptism of Thy dear Son, and with Thy voice didst direct us to Him who hath borne our sins, that we might receive grace and the remission of sins: Keep us, we beseech Thee, in the true faith; and inasmuch as we have been baptized in accordance with Thy command, and the example of Thy dear Son, we pray Thee to strengthen our faith by Thy Holy Spirit, and lead us to everlasting life and salvation, through Thy beloved Son, Jesus Christ our Lord, who liveth and reigneth with Thee and the Holy Ghost, one true God, world without end. Amen.

    The Scriptural Meaning of Love

    Love is one of the most abused terms in our time, and this passage deals with love, or charity. Our perception of this chapter is not helped by its reading at weddings, including that of Prince Charles and Princess Diane, leading people to believe that the greatest of all the theological virtues is romantic love. The best known philosophers of the 20th century, the Beatles, sang, “All you need is love,” but they could not stay together.

    First we need to ask about the setting of this lesson. Few people notice that it is placed between two chapters, 1 Corinthians 12 and 1 Corinthians 14, dealing with charismatics or tongue-speakers. Another term we use for tongue-speakers is Pentecostals. I remember being at a Baptist camp as a child and hearing someone put down as “Pentecostal.” All I knew at the time was that Pentecost was a religious event in the Christian Church.

    The three chapters, 1 Corinthians 12-14, are an extensive criticism of Pentecostal claims then and now. We can see that embedded in this chapter.
    “If I speak in the tongues of angels…”
    “Tongues shall cease.”
    “When I was a child, I spake as a child.”

    Although Pentecostalism is a problem for many Lutherans, I think it is important to address a greater danger, which is foundational, common to all forms of false doctrine: the separation of the Word and the Holy Spirit. This is called Enthusiasm in the Book of Concord.

    "And in those things which concern the spoken, outward Word, we must firmly hold that God grants His Spirit or grace to no one, except through or with the preceding outward Word, in order that we may [thus] be protected against the enthusiasts, i. e., spirits who boast that they have the Spirit without and before the Word, and accordingly judge Scripture or the spoken Word, and explain and stretch it at their pleasure, as Muenzer did, and many still do at the present day, who wish to be acute judges between the Spirit and the letter, and yet know not what they say or declare. For [indeed] the Papacy also is nothing but sheer enthusiasm, by which the Pope boasts that all rights exist in the shrine of his heart, and whatever he decides and commands with [in] his church is spirit and right, even though it is above and contrary to Scripture and the spoken Word."
    Smalcald Articles, VIII., Confession, 3-5, Concordia Triglotta, St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House, 1921, p. 495. Tappert, p. 312. Heiser, p. 147.

    We confess as Lutherans that all false doctrine begins with separating the Word from the Spirit, since the Scriptures always weld them together. The Word never operates without the Spirit and the Spirit never without the Word. That is sound doctrine. (Hoenecke’s Dogmatics. Vol. IV is now available from NPH.)

    That is the key to the love, which is the main theme of this chapter. Love is the fruit of the Gospel. When Paul wrote about the Law and Gospel to the Galatians, he pointed out the difference between the WORKS of the flesh and the FRUITS of the Spirit. We work strife, envy, and hatred in ourselves—these are works of the flesh. The Law works wrath, so one does not stop hatred by saying, “Stop being so hateful. I despise that. It is evil.”

    In contrast, love is a fruit of the Spirit. (Some distinguish between the spirit of man and the Spirit of God here. I fail to see the difference. The Spirit of God must produce the fruit before the spirit of man enjoys it.) When we say fruit, we mean that God produces it, unlike the works of the flesh. So the answer to hatred is not merely denouncing it, which is the Holy Spirit’s work through the Law. The only way to produce love is through proclaiming the Gospel of forgiveness.

    What does the Word of God do? It proclaims that the eternal Son of God became man, being born of a Virgin, and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth. Jesus the Incarnate Word, taught, performed miracles, and died on the cross for our sins, rising from the grave to be the firstfruits of all those who would rise from the dead.

    The world stands condemned for its unbelief without the Gospel. The preaching of the Word has always been God’s method for imparting His grace, mercy, forgiveness, and love. It is true that some read the Scriptures and are converted, but they are in the minority. All infant baptisms are the preaching of the Word, for every baptism is water with the Word.

    (When I teach confirmation, I heat up a wire and set fire to paper with it. The wire paper clip glows with heat and energy, a comparison used by the orthodox Lutherans. We do not separate the red glow of the heat from the metal. We see both. In the same way, with baptism and communion, we see the elements but we know the power is in the Word. The Word imparts the Holy Spirit’s energy to the recipient in granting forgiveness.)

    Therefore, if we want an abundance of love, we should first desire an abundance of orthodox preaching. Otherwise we are demanding apples where there are no trees. The tree is the Word of God. Love, joy, and peach are the fruits that grow from this tree. Gospel preaching is both Law and Gospel, since our Old Adam never goes away. Justification by faith means that the Holy Spirit proclaims what Christ has done for us on the cross, paying for our sins, and we receive this decree of pardon by faith. A forgiven sinner knows and experiences God’s love, so the Gospel love of God bears fruit in the believer as love toward God and toward our neighbor. We love because He first loved us.

    This is important because the false teachers want us to believe they are the apostles of love. First of all they pose as men who are more loving than the rest of us. Their great love gathers disciples to their cause and proves how valuable they are to the Kingdom of God. That alone should make the alarm bells go off, as we will see shortly. But the second part of their love message is even more dangerous. They claim that their false doctrine may not be opposed because it is unloving to do so. In fact, the proto-liberals of the LCMS made their case in a booklet called Speaking the Truth in Love. That phrase has become a rallying cry for the false teachers among the conservative Lutherans. Let’s look at the context.

    KJV Ephesians 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; 15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ: 16 From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.
    Clearly the context of “speaking the truth in love” is in opposing false doctrine. Love is not an excuse for tolerating false doctrine, because false doctrine belongs to man and ultimately Satan. Orthodoxy simply means teaching exactly what the Bible reveals to us, as confessed through the Book of Concord. The more I read the Book of Concord, the more I see how the controversies of the past have been resolved with the pure Word of God. Orthodoxy means clinging only to the truths of the Scriptures.

    As Lenski points out, the meaning behind “speaking the truth in love” is a double accusation against the false teachers. They engage in all kinds of deceit and trickery to have their way and they are anything but loving. Luther wrote: “They flay their disciples to the bone.” For example, some Evangelicals, after getting 10% of everyone’s income, will say, “Ten percent is not an offering. An offering is what you give after the required 10%.” I heard one famous minister, who was having an affair and teaching about his lovely marriage at the same time, “I am going back to my congregation to preach about the double tithe.” Motivating with the Law is not enough for these wolves. They must double the Law. The adulterous pastor was given another church job, then called back to his congregation where he had the affair.

    The apostle is also exhorting the Ephesians not to be children about doctrine. An endearing trait of children is their eagerness to be taught and led. One can also mislead and deceive them easily. (I offered children a gold coin or a huge token worth $1. Most of them took the token rather than the gold.) Adult believers should not be childish in allowing themselves to be drawn away from the Word of God and the Confessions. No one has the power to take us from the truth. We must give up the truth willingly in the name of some other loyalty, to a person, a family, a tradition, a building, or a church body. You would be amazed at how cheaply the Gospel is bartered away by pastors and church leaders. One said, in effect, “I will never let that adulterer speak at my church, but I will take his $50,000.”

    Our love of God should be primary. The catechism says we should fear, love, and trust in God above all things. If we have to choose between man’s favor and God’s truth, our fear of God should be greater than our fear of rejection by man. If we love our possessions, we should love God more, so that we would gladly give them up rather than give up God. We look for people and companies we can trust, but we should trust in God most of all.

    Trust is the key element in our love of God. Oh, I love God, but can I trust in Him to provide when I have to make decisions according to His Word. One thing is very clear—there is a lot more money, prestige, and friendship in abandoning the Word than in insisting on the truth of the Scriptures and acting upon that truth.

    Another Excuse
    Love is also used as an excuse for lawlessness. It would be unloving to identify something as a sin. “I wouldn’t do that but I won’t JUDGE anyone who does.” Of course, that is a condemnatory statement. There is an implied condemnation in the claim that “I won’t JUDGE anyone who does.” Someone who judges something to be wrong is condemned for being wrong according to the spirit of this age.
    I have never seen someone abandon the Law, although they may sound like anti-Nomians. What they really do in their lawlessness is transfer man’s law into God’s Law. They deny God’s Law and replace it with man’s law. They are far more censorious with their law than God is with His Law.

    It is far more loving to identify sin as a sin, according to God’s Word. If something is a sin, then it is contrary to God’s commandments, which are good and loving. The Holy Spirit alone can create true contrition, sorrow for sin, by working through the Law. No one wants to hear the Law, but the Law prepares us for the comfort and forgiveness of the Gospel.

    Proper Love
    The proper love of God, according to the Scriptures, means that we will never accept any trifling with the truth of the Word, because it belongs to God alone.

    The proper love of man, as revealed in the Scriptures, is shown in our willingness to accept the failings and shortcomings of others, to make allowances for them, and be eager to forgive, as God forgives us.

    KJV John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

    Quotations

    1 Corinthians 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

    Ephesians 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

    2 Timothy 2:26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

    "Of Free Will they teach that man's will has some liberty to choose civil righteousness, and to work things subject to reason. But it has no power, without the Holy Ghost, to work the righteousness of God, that is, spiritual righteousness; since the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God, 1 Corinthians 2:14; but this righteousness is wrought through the Word."
    Augsburg Confession, Article XVIII, Freedom of the Will, Concordia Triglotta, St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House, 1921, p. 51. Tappert, p. 39. 1 Corinthians 2:14.

    "Now, although both, the planting and watering of the preacher, and the running and willing of the hearer, would be in vain, and no conversion would follow it if the power and efficacy of the Holy Ghost were not added thereto, who enlightens and converts the hearts through the Word preached and heard, so that men believe this Word and assent thereto, still, neither preacher nor hearer is to doubt this grace and efficacy of the Holy Ghost, but should be certain that when the Word of God is preached purely and truly, according to the command and will of God, and men listen attentively and earnestly and meditate upon it, God is certainly present with His grace, and grants, as has been said, what otherwise man can neither accept nor give from his own powers."
    Solid Declaration, Article II, Free Will, 55-56, Formula of Concord, Concordia Triglotta, St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House, 1921, p. 903. Tappert, p. 531f.

    "Why is so much assumed about the ability of human nature? It has been wounded, hurt, injured, ruined. It has need of a true confession, not of a false defense." [Augustine, De natura et gratia, chap. 53; quoted with approval by Chemnitz]
    Martin Chemnitz, Examination of the Council of Trent, trans., Fred Kramer, St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House, 1971, I, p. 411.

    "Moreover [On the other side], both the ancient and modern enthusiasts have taught that God converts men, and leads them to the saving knowledge of Christ through His Spirit, without any created means and instrument, that is, without the external preaching and hearing of God's Word."
    Formula of Concord, Thorough Declaration, II. 4. Free Will, Concordia Triglotta, St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House, 1921, p. 881.

    "Against both these parties the pure teachers of the Augsburg Confession have taught and contended that by the fall of our first parents man was so corrupted that in divine things pertaining to our conversion and the salvation of our souls he is by nature blind, that, when the Word of God is preached, he neither does nor can understand it, but regards it as foolishness; also, that he does not of himself draw nigh to God, but is and remains an enemy of God, until he is converted, becomes a believer [is endowed with faith], is regenerated and renewed, by the power of the Holy Ghost through the Word when preached and heard, out of pure grace, without any cooperation of his own."
    Formula of Concord, Thorough Declaration, II. 5. Free Will, Concordia Triglotta, St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House, 1921, p. 881.

    "Hence the natural free will according to its perverted, disposition and nature is strong and active only with respect to what is displeasing and contrary to God."
    Formula of Concord, Thorough Declaration, II. 7. Free Will, Concordia Triglotta, St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House, 1921, p. 883. John 8:34; Ephesians 2:2; 2 Timothy 2: 26.

    "For, first, although man's reason or natural intellect indeed has still a dim spark of the knowledge that there is a God, as also of the doctrine of the Law Romans 1:19ff., yet is is so ignorant, blind, and perverted that when even the most ingenious and learned men upon earth read or hear the Gospel of the Son of God and the promise of eternal salvation, they cannot from their own powers perceive apprehend, understand, or believe and regard it as true, but the more diligence and earnestness they employ, wishing to comprehend these spiritual things with their reason, the less they understand or believe, and before they become enlightened and are taught by the Holy Ghost, they regard all this only as foolishness or fictions. 1 Corinthians 2:14..."
    Formula of Concord, Thorough Declaration, II. 9. Free Will, Concordia Triglotta, St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House, 1921, p. 883. 1 Corinthians 2:14; Ephesians 4:17f.; 1 Corinthians 1:21

    "And, in a word, it remains eternally true what the Son of God says, John 15:5: Without Me ye can do nothing. And Paul, Philippians 2:13: It is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of His good pleasure. To all godly Christians who feel and experience in their hearts a small spark or longing for divine grace and eternal salvation this precious passage is very comforting; for they know that God has kindled in their hearts this beginning of true godliness, and that He will further strengthen and help them in their great weakness to persevere in true faith unto the end."
    Formula of Concord, Thorough Declaration, II. 14. Free Will, Concordia Triglotta, St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House, 1921, p. 885. Philippians 2:13; John 15:5.

    "Thirdly, in this manner, too, the Holy Scriptures ascribe conversion, faith in Christ, regeneration, renewal, and all that belongs to their efficacious beginning and completion, not to the human powers of the natural free will, neither entirely, nor half, nor in any, even the least or most inconsiderable part, but in solidum, that is, entirely, solely to the divine working and the Holy Ghost, as also the Apology teaches."
    Formula of Concord, Thorough Declaration, II. 25. Free Will, Concordia Triglotta, St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House, 1921, p. 891.

    "Today's Gospel also teaches by this parable that our free will amounts to nothing, since the good seed is sowed only by Christ, and Satan sows nothing but evil seed; as we also see that the field of itself yields nothing but tares, which the cattle eat, although the field receives them and they make the field green as if they were wheat. In the same way the false Christians among the true Christians are of no use but to feed the world and be food for Satan, and they are so beautifully green and hypocritical, as if they alone were the saints, and hold the place in Christendom as if they were lords there, and the government and highest places belonged to them; and for no other reason than that they glory that they are Christians and are among Christians in the church of Christ, although they see and confess that they live unchristian lives."
    Martin Luther, Sermons of Martin Luther, 8 vols., ed., John N. Lenker, Grand Rapids: Baker Book House, 1983, II, p. 103. Matthew 13:24-30;

    Saturday, February 21, 2009

    A WELS Layman Discerns the Obvious




    Luther at the Diet of Worms.



    Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "CORE Ignores the Obvious":

    As a WELS layman whose eyes were opened through Ichabod to this apostasy only a month ago, let me ask if this is a proper summation of the CORE matter:


    CORE says "Christ is at the CORE of everything* we do."

    Footnote:
    * Except:
    a) they don't trust in the efficacy of the Word alone;

    "Therefore you had better not boast much about the Spirit if you do not have the visible, external Word; for it will surely not be a good spirit but the wretched devil from hell. The Holy Spirit has embodied His wisdom and counsel and all mysteries of the Word and revealed them in Scripture and ****so no one needs to excuse himself or took and search for anything else."*** [emphasis mine in Luther's sermon words]

    b) they provide false testimony about WELS beliefs by openly attending religious training with those that we would not even permit to sup with us at Holy Communion;

    c) "Church and Change" scrambles to find ways to augment church worship experience and slick them up, instead of holding dear to the Theology of the Cross and the orderly worship of our forefathers.

    d) The longer we lay-leaders let SkiCOREski prance in the Fox Valley without running him out of town pelting him with dog sh*t, the more wrath we'll face from our fellow WELS congregants when their eyes are opened, not to forget the double-edged sword of Christ Almighty Himself;

    e) WELS doesn't have the money for such nonsense;

    f) we must be on guard in our own congregations for pastors trying to water down liturgical worship, especially in the loosey-goosey Northern Wisconsin district (see the "Rite Worship for Outreach" Bible Study/presentation from the 2008 District convention; even Pastor Schroeder's research showed "contemporary worship" was the bottom of the list of things the unchurched were looking for);

    g) I'm now on double-secret probation from the Church & Chicanery cabal for violating Matthew 18, because I didn't first sit down with Ski, hold his hand, and politely explain and itemize this pastors (sic) apostasy to his own satisfaction.


    I submit in Love, not Fear, (1 John 4)
    Your reader,
    Diet O. Worms

    "For Satan needs do no more through the enthusiasts than always produce doubt. He thinks it is enough where he can speak haughtily and contemptuously about us, as the rebel sacramentarians do. None of them take pains to make clear and to prove their arrogance, but their concern is to make our interpretations contemptible and uncertain. They teach doubt, not faith... The devil knows he can accomplish nothing in the bright light of truth, so he stirs up the dust, hoping to raise a cloud before our eyes so that we cannot see the light. In the cloud he dazzles us with will o' the wisps to mislead us. Having made up their minds concerning their peculiar notions, they attempt to make the Scriptures agree with them by dragging passages in by the hair. But Christ has faithfully stood by our side up to this point and will continue to trod Satan under our foot. He will protect you all against the seductions of your tyrant and Antichrist and mercifully help us to gain his freedom. Amen." Martin Luther, "A Letter of Martin Luther to Two Pastors"


    "From now on, Diet, you are on double secret-probation!"

    Church Solutions - Feel the Hype?



    "Double frapachino caramel mocha de-caff double shot? Aww-right!"


    Wisc. Movie Theater to Become Church – Permanently

    02/12/2009

    The former home of the Big Picture movie theater in downtown Appleton, Wisc., is the new branch home of Freedom, Wisc.-based St. Peter Lutheran Church.

    Pastor Jim Skorzewski is starting up The Core, a new ministry of the church aimed at 19-to-35 year olds. The movie theater they have purchased has an IMAX screen, which Skorzewski can’t wait to use. In that room, the church will construct a 30-foot by 90-foot performance platform.

    The former concession stands will be turned into coffee lounges and cafes with free WiFi.

    The official opening is April 19, but the services have started already, meeting at 5:30 p.m. Sunday evenings.

    Source:

    WWLP.com: Big movie theater to turn into church

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    CORE Ignores the Obvious



    The Obvious - Fellowship with the Babtists, who oppose infant baptism and baptismal regeneration as Romanism.



    The Obvious - Ski bragging about skipping Deutschlander for Stanley.


    The CORE website:


    For all who may read this, fans and critics alike, we’re not going to try and “sell” you on anything or try to convince you to see things from our perspective. However, we do feel we need to clarify our stance on some things as there are far too many incorrect assumptions out there. And, since we cannot force people to put the best construction on our actions all we can do is make it very clear what we at The CORE believe and if people want to skew that or twist it then so be it.

    Let’s start with this: We DO NOT believe there is anything inherently wrong with traditional worship. We are not saying that everyone has to worship the way we plan to. For some, an organ and a traditional worship space are wonderful. For others, however, that fails to connect with where they are at in their spiritual walk of faith. Would you force a mission congregation in the middle of Africa to worship in a traditional worship space with a pipe organ? We highly doubt it. You would allow them to make their culture a part of how they do corporate worship. Why then is it any different here? We will do worship with screens and a band because we believe there are thousands of Lost souls who need Jesus and that more modern music is a way to engage them so that we are able to share the Gospel with them.

    If you have ever been to one of our worship services you know that the Law and Gospel are very clearly presented. There is no sugar coating or watering down the Word. Ski’s sermons slap you in the face with your sin and also offer you God’s grace and forgiveness through his Son’s death on the cross. We will regularly celebrate the Lord’s Supper together at an altar of sorts even if it may not look like the altar you have in your church and Lord willing will celebrate many baptisms at a baptismal font that also may not look like the one you have in your church. We don’t believe the early Christian’s worshiped with an organ in a building with pews, an altar, a baptismal font, and stained glass windows. Would you still call what they did worship? We certainly would.

    Numbers in and of themselves do not equal success. But the fact that numbers represent souls who heard the Gospel at any given service? Now in that regard, they do represent success. Even if the only ones present were ourselves, the Law and Gospel preached in their truth and purity equals success. Can we do anything to add to that Law and Gospel? Most certainly not. However, we CAN do and often actually do a ton to distract people from the truth of God’s Word. Our unkind words and actions towards our fellow believers is a prime example of that.

    We love that critics conveniently overlook the fact that we say over and over again “Christ is at the core of everything we do as a church.” That’s pretty hard to criticize now, isn’t it? If you are skeptical of what we do, we don’t blame you. However, before you criticize, all we ask is that come to a service and see for yourself what it is that we do. See that the Law and Gospel are preached; that we don’t have to compromise our beliefs in any way to reach people in a different way.

    “Therefore, in the present case I advise you: Leave these men alone! Let them go! For if their purpose or activity is of human origin, it will fail. But if it is from God, you will not be able to stop these men; you will only find yourselves fighting against God.’” Acts 5:38-39

    Janinne Skorzewski at 3:10pm February 21
    Well said!

    Pamela Plamann at 7:18am February 22
    A BIG thank you to The Core for reaching out to those that are in dyer (sic) need of having Christ in their lives.


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    Keep an eye on: The Big Picture
    February 21, 2009

    What's the issue: The state's only large-format theater closed its doors Oct. 15 after 19 months of operation.

    The Big Picture Theater of Adventure and Discovery began operations at 215 E. Washington St. on March 19, 2005.

    In an interview with The Post-Crescent, co-owner Jim Bork, president of Big Picture Concepts, said low attendance led to the closure, which put 13 employees out of work.

    The building is for sale.

    Why is it important: The $5.1 million, 300-seat theater opened showing educational films such as "Lewis & Clark: Great Journey West."

    The top adult ticket price was $8.50. It was later reduced to $7.50.

    In September, the theater played host to a Star Trek convention, showing films like "Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan."

    The local Wildwood Film Festival held its fifth annual event at The Big Picture in April.

    The theater, which boasts a screen 80 feet wide and 60 feet tall, closed after a well-received foreign film festival.

    The city had deeded the property, formerly occupied by a printing company, to Bork and co-owners Chuck and Donna Barnum with a promise the owners would repay a city investment in the property.

    The city improved the property years before the theater project was proposed.

    Bork told The Post-Crescent attendance was less than half of the 200,000 to 250,000 the theater needed annually to meet financial obligations.

    By August 2006, the theater was $4 million in debt, including $1.6 million owed to the city of Appleton.

    The theater made one partial payment of $74,724.46 on that debt. In its developer's agreement with the city, the theater was responsible for 14 annual installments in $118,400.

    The city has not foreclosed on the property.

    — By Steve Wideman

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    Big Picture Could See Big Regional Draw
    Marketplace , Jan 25, 2005 by Lebrun, Margaret
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    Jim Bork and partner Chuck Barnum are after a "wow" factor when they open The Big Picture Theater of Adventure & Discovery in downtown Appleton in March. The state's second large-format film theater boasts an 80-foot wide and 6-story high screen and seating for about 300.

    Under construction since last fall, the 19,000-square-foot, $51 million project has been a dream of Bork's for years. He recalls seeing largeformat films in larger cities across the country and being wowed" by the experience.

    "I remember thinking that would play well in this area," says Bork, who spent 25 years with Aid Association for Lutherans (now Thrivent) and the last seven years teaching business and social sciences at Fox-Valley Technical College. "The films are family friendly and they have a little educational value. This is a family area, and we're anticipating success here."

    Bork and Barnum, who owned an Appleton nursing home, bought the 215 E. Washington St. site from the city of Appleton with a tax incremental financing arrangement.

    The Big Picture's executive director, Ed Bisaillon, played a big role in bringing the Humphrey IMAX to Milwaukee in 1998. Bisaillon has also been involved in large-format theaters in Nebraska, Illinois and Ohio. In Hastings, Nebraska, the museum he directed more than quadrupled its annual 50,000 attendance when it added a large-format movie screen. He expects Appleton's theater to draw 250,000 a year.

    "The fact that one of these large-format theaters is coming to Northeast Wisconsin is a real feather in the cap of the area," Bisaillon says.


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    Big Picture’s name is no exaggeration




    By Stefanie Scott


    Walking into the lobby of The Big Picture Theater of Adventure & Discovery, the smell of buttery popcorn hits the senses and makes the stomach rumble.

    From the framed movie posters on the wall to the box office where tickets are sold, it seems like a typical day at the movies.

    But once patrons make their way into the theater portion of the facility, they immediately realize they’re not entering the local Cineplex. The immense movie screen hovers before them measuring 80 feet wide and six stories tall.

    “It was just huge,” said Dvin Kohls, 10, of Winneconne, who recently viewed “Everest,” a dramatic true story of climbers who tried to make it to the summit of the magnificent mountain. “The whole thing was just great. If I had the chance, I’d come back all the time.”

    Kohls and his buddies said they never expected the film to be so exciting, but that the action and special effects rival that of summer blockbuster movies.

    The Big Picture, 215 E. Washington St., downtown Appleton, opened its doors in March providing family-friendly, non-violent films about science, nature and history.

    “I was the dreamer behind this,” said Jim Bork, one of The Big Picture owners. “For many years, I wanted to bring this to the Fox Cities. The facility couldn’t have turned out better.”

    The screen size and sound system create an immersive experience extending beyond the field of vision so viewers feel like they’re part of the film.

    Doug Nelson and son Cody, 10, definitely felt like they had been transported from the streets of Appleton to the Himalayan mountains.

    “When the woman slid down the rope and started spinning, I felt like I was spinning,” said the younger Nelson.

    His father recalls a collective sigh from the audience as the picture panned over the steep cliffs.

    In fact, the overwhelming quiet spoke volumes to the father who knows that kids only remain silent when they’re truly captivated.

    “It was exciting because you never knew what was going to happen next,” Cody said.

    Keeping with a complete theater experience, co-owner Chuck Barnum gets groups together to take a picture before the film. He climbs high on a ladder and gets a bird eye view for the visitors to take home as a memento, he said.

    “When the kids leave, they always say they’ll be back,” Barnum said. “My motivation for being a part of this is to provide an exceptional experience and when they say that, I know we’re connecting.”

    The theater shows three different large-format documentary films throughout the day. In addition to “Everest,” The Big Picture currently presents one or two other large-format movies.

    A new film will replace an existing one every month and a half. “Speed,” a film about the human drive to go faster will debut in summer 2005. Shows typically last an hour, with seven showings daily.

    The owners like to gauge audience reaction to the films. “In the pre-show, when they see some of the special effect, they’re just like ‘Wow,’ with their mouths hanging open – that’s really rewarding,” Bork said.

    Theater management likens their films to programming seen on the Discovery and National Geographic channels. Topics for large-format films range from ocean creatures to car racing, many often crated in a first-person perspective.

    “It gives kids a chance to experience history rather than just read it out of a textbook,” Bork said.

    The local owners invested $5.1 million to make The Big Picture the second large-format theater in Wisconsin. While the Milwaukee Public Museum operates an IMAX system, the Appleton theater uses German-made Kinoton product.

    The theater uses special, large film called 8/70 – a single frame measures four times larger than standard 35 mm and captures more details and boasts clarity, vivid detail and realism.

    A 7,000-watt projector lamp brings brightness to the production. The system proves 3-D capable, a technology that filmmakers say they will be making more use of in the future.

    Clear, crisp sound effects emit from the digital Dolby sound system.

    Every one of the 298 roomy seats have been carefully arranged to ensure an obstructed view. Customers always get the best seat in the house.

    The Big Picture has already received tremendous response from school and other youth groups. Now they hope the summer will bring more family outings and tourists.

    “We really want to appeal to the family market,” Bork said. “This is the type of place grandparents, parents and kids can enjoy together.”

    Sally Korn was excited to hear about the new facility because she had taken her three kids – ranging in age from 11 to 18 – to several similar theaters around the Midwest.

    “We’ve always enjoyed these movies,” she said. “We’ve been going since the youngest was 3 years old.”

    In addition to the exciting, edu-tainment that The Big Picture has already been showing, the management hopes to mix it up a bit this summer with a few classic Hollywood titles.

    While the theater stands out for its ability to show large-format films, it can also present 5/70 film, the format in which many early Hollywood movies was shot. Although no specific titles have been chosen, Bork says “How the West was Won,” “2001 Space Odyssey” and “Sound of Music,” are just a few of the well-known films created in this format.

    “We’re not interested in competing with area cinemas or making a steady diet of these movies, but we want to expose people to what’s available,” Bork said.

    The facility offers assistive listening devices and wheelchair spaces with companion sitting on a first-come, first-serve basis.

    Patrons should arrive about 20 minutes before a showing to ensure a seat. Refreshments such as popcorn, nachos, candy and soda are sold at the lobby concession stand.

    The gift shop sells souvenirs from books to stuffed animals with an educational focus. DVDs of some of the other large format documentaries are available in the shop.

    Tickets available online at www.bigpicturetheater.com or by phone at (920) 731-7700. The box office is open noon to 6 p.m. Monday through Friday.

    Prices are $8.50 for ages 12 to 59, $7.50 for 60 and older, $6.50 for children ages 3 to 11. Matinees offer a 50 cent discount. Stay for additional films for $4.50 each. Children under 3 should sit on the lap of parent.


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    GJ - The Appleton area already has a surplus of WELS congregations, and many in the area are not happy with this new development.

    It would be interesting to see the budget and who is paying the bills. A building that large is an energy hog, even before the 20 Sub-Woofers Behind That Screen! are fired up.