     Rick Strickert (Carlvehse) Senior Member Username: Carlvehse Post Number: 4421 Registered: 10-2003 |
A lengthy September 24 - December14 LQ thread, "ELDoNA Rejects Objective Justification," discussed ELDoNA's Theses on Justification, which rejects Objective Justification. The Association of Confessional Lutheran Churches has posted on its website its February 9, 2014, 50-page report, "Critique of the Evangelical Lutheran Diocese of North America’s Theses on Justification." Here's the Abstract: The critique points out logical fallacies thesis by thesis. In general, the conclusions of the theses are built on three fallacies: Straw Man, Equivocation, and Exclusion. The critique is thorough, but not exhaustive due to the quantity of error and volume of material. | ||
| Rev. David R. Boisclair (Drboisclair) Intermediate Member Username: Drboisclair Post Number: 446 Registered: 1-2002 |
This confessional document published by the ACLC takes the bold step of declaring fellowship sundered with the heterodox ELDoNA. Of course, it was ELDoNA itself which sundered fellowship with all orthodox Lutheran fellowships by declaring that its Justification theses delimited its doctrinal fellowship. I thank Rick Strickert for posting a link to this fine critique. We need to earnestly contend for the faith once delivered to the saints against the gainsayers (deniers). | ||
| Rev. Guillaume Williams (Revhardheaded) Senior Member Username: Revhardheaded Post Number: 4875 Registered: 10-2004 |
I wish the ELDoNA quotes were better formatted. Other than that, so far, a good defense. The Rev. Guillaume J. S. Williams, Sr God justifies the ungodly. Rom 4:5 And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness, |
| Pastor Rolf David Preus (Rolf) Senior Member Username: Rolf Post Number: 7286 Registered: 5-2001 |
The pastors of the ACLC have made a good confession. I commend them for their patience and theological integrity. While it appears that the ELDoNA, at the moment anyway, is not listening, the ACLC is doing a service to the church by publicly addressing this vital issue in accordance with the Scriptures and the Lutheran Confessions. I thank God for the faithful witness of these men! Pastor Rolf David Preus |
| Rev. David R. Boisclair (Drboisclair) Intermediate Member Username: Drboisclair Post Number: 447 Registered: 1-2002 |
The way in which The Critique takes on the beheading of the Gospel known as "Theses on Justification"--it was promulgated on the Festival of the Beheading of John the Baptist--is to expose the logical fallacies that are committed by ELDoNA and its friend Greg Jackson of "No Glory to God." Jackson constantly accuses orthodox theologians (sic) of committing logical and grammatical errors. Well, he and his followers commit both logical and grammatical errors generally, and in particular in their new theses. The most damning aspect of the ELDoNA Theses is their lack of BOTH Scriptural and Confessional grounding. At least The Brief Statement, This We Belive, and The Critique base their confession on Scripture. For any Lutheran Christian to make a confession to the world that is not soundly based on the Holy Scriptures and witnessed to by the Lutheran Confessions is unthinkable, but that is what ELDoNA has shamelessly done. They have separated themselves from the fellowship of orthodox, confessional Lutheranism to the point that they dishonor the "Fathers" that they claim to follow religiously. Their theses on Justification should go down in history with the disrepute of The Altered Augsburg Confession, The Definite Synodical Platform, the Leuenberg Concord, the concordats of the ELCA with the Reformed, and the JDDJ of the Lutheran World Federation. It is an utter disgrace to Luther and all his true spiritual heirs. | ||
| David Breitenfeld (Dbreitenfeld) Advanced Member Username: Dbreitenfeld Post Number: 822 Registered: 10-2004 |
With the rejection of Justification of Christ's work on our behalf by faith, do other synod's say they are still Christian? Or are they just not sure? |
| Jim Denger (Jim_denger) Junior Member Username: Jim_denger Post Number: 36 Registered: 11-2013 |
Dear David, What? Sincerely, Jim |
GJ - Williams reads an entire chapter on justification by faith - Romans 4 - and finds UOJ.
Hey - how did Rolf sneak back into the Missouri Synod again? How many synods is that for him now?
