Jeske's Milwaukee-based TV ministry reaches 35 markets - JSOnline

GJ - The apostasy of WELS was underway when Mark Jeske graduated from The Sausage Factory in 1978. His father, aka Jester aka Jumpin' Jack, was indebted to the NIV money factory, as David Kuske was. 


Let us  not show shock or awe at Mark and Tom Jeske backing the New NIV money machine. 


Davide Kuske replaced the Justification by Faith Gausewitz Catechism with his UOJ Catechism. Panning backed the excommunication of two families from Kokomo for questioning UOJ. Sig Becker wrote atrocious defenses of UOJ.


Gerlach went to Fuller Seminary and promoted false doctrine so obviously that he was edged off the faculty. (Not to worry, they had many more replacements.) 


Among the students, the most addled about Lutheran doctrine were Papenfuss, who started the UOJ fuss in Kokomo, plus Rick Curia, a loyal defender of UOJ - and Marcus Montey, who landed on the Intrepids for daring to question UOJ dogma. The greenies are UOJ dominant while the yellows made their mark with Fuller doctrine and methods.


Wally Oelhafen was tickled pink that Robert Schumann was bringing his CGM obsessions to St. Paul German Village (Tim Glende's ALC home church). Schumann is an atheist today. We have to thank Elton Stroh for turning around the Latte Church served by a female WELS pastor. After months of his anointed service, the parish closed its hellish doors for good.


Richard Starr, in a bid to outdo LaughQuest, said his Brazilian experiment handed people video tapes to watch if they wanted to know more about the Christian faith. Evangelism Explosion! A mattress might have been better.

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Jeske's Milwaukee-based TV ministry reaches 35 markets - JSOnline:


While it is semantically correct to call Pastor Mark Jeske a televangelist, it is not entirely accurate. His weekly show "Time of Grace" is syndicated to 35 television stations from St. Marcus Lutheran Church, 2215 N. Palmer St., in Milwaukee's Brewers Hill neighborhood.

But "I don't like the word" televangelist "and never use it," Jeske said. "I don't like the words preach or sermon, either. Why would people who don't want a sermon Monday through Saturday want one Sunday?

"I just talk to people. It's a conversation."

Jeske, a Milwaukee native who came to St. Marcus 30 years ago, lives in an 1880s Cream City brick home on the east side.

He is a member of the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod, but "Time of Grace" is not affiliated with any denomination.

In Milwaukee, the ministry is seen Sundays at 7:30 a.m. on WDJT-TV (Channel 58), Thursdays at 9 a.m. on WPXE-TV (Channel 55), and Saturdays at 1 a.m. on WTMJ-TV (Channel 4).

At a time when it often feels like the secular and spiritual are at war, it is tempting to see the show as a fruitful partnership between God and mammon. The television ministry has grown because "God is blessing it," Jeske said, but practical techniques and material considerations and technologies also go into its success.

"Time of Grace" has a professional staff of a dozen, including a full-time producer and digital editor who work in a "pretty well-equipped editing suite" in a new school building adjacent to the church. Jeske said most of each show is 26 minutes and 30 seconds "of me talking" in front of his regular congregation, into which studio segments and a "soft ask" for support are sliced.

"Product sales and books I've written are not profit generators," he said. "We almost completely depend on the goodwill of people who find value in the program and want to see it spread."

And the goal is for the show to be self-sufficient in each market.

As a member of the clergy, Jeske was trained as a public speaker, but adapting that skill to television "was a slow, cumulative" process, he said. It required "some mental juggling" to deliver an address aimed at his congregation that also can apply to TV viewers.

"After a while, I became very aware that I've got two audiences and have learned to multitask," Jeske said.

He also avoids references that will sound dated when they finally air. Seasonal episodes - like Sunday's televised Easter message - were taped 12 months earlier. Next year's Easter telecast will be taped this Sunday in front of his 1,100-member congregation.

His first shows a decade ago, were "OK, but we had a lot to learn technically," Jeske said. They were harshly lighted and his black-and-white clergy robes were "terrible colors" to wear on TV. They "drive the camera iris crazy," he said.

A creative consultant told him to get out from behind the pulpit and to wear business clothes to "create a much more colorful, balanced image."

Today's high-definition cameras also require that "every hair follicle has to be perfect."

"I've got to get really girly about my makeup," Jeske said. "Lint or pink powder on my clothes just scream" on camera.

Camera operators shoot his sermon from left and right pews and the aisle, and the director controls things in the editing suite.

"It took a little while" for parishioners to get used to the cameras, but "the lighting is even more off-putting. It's very bright."

Once edited, the shows are duplicated on DVD and sent to each station.

"Time of Grace" uses a national media buyer to find "low-demand" time slots in each market. And because ratings for the show "are vague, expensive and hard to get," Jeske said the ministry uses the number of "people who write or call to measure how we are doing. I think most people trip on us. They are channel-surfing."

But, "if they like you on television, they stay very loyal."


'via Blog this'

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Adolph Hoenecke has left a new comment on your post "Jeske's Milwaukee-based TV ministry reaches 35 mar...":

Not a televangelist? If it walks like a duck, quakes like a duck....

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GJ - One pastor in Milwaukee contacted me and objected to Mark Jeske owning his own house but listing it
as a parsonage. Jeske is good at living high on other people's money, especially the government's tax revenue. If he is a home owner and pretending to be in a parsonage, then he should do his fair share - or fare share, in this case.

I was also told this is not exactly rare in Milwaukee, to have the church list it as their parsonage when it is not.

I know an LCA/ELCA bishop who did the same thing, saving himself thousands each year.

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AC V has left a new comment on your post "Jeske's Milwaukee-based TV ministry reaches 35 mar...":

A creative consultant told him to get out from behind the pulpit and to wear business clothes to "create a much more colorful, balanced image."

More powerful than a District President.

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GJ - To borrow a phrase from Adolph, above, a DP quakes like a duck.

Almighty Father, Bless the Word, TLH 52. We Praise Thee for the Means of Grace

"Almighty Father, Bless the Word"
by an unknown author

1. Almighty Father, bless the Word
Which through Thy grace we now have heard,
Oh, may the precious seed take root,
Spring up, and bear abundant fruit!

2. We praise Thee for the Means of Grace
As homeward now our steps we trace.
Grant, Lord, that we who worshiped here
May all at last in heaven appear.

The Lutheran Hymnal
Hymn #52
Text: Luke 8:8
Author: unknown
From the Scandanavian
Tune: "Old Hundredth"
1st Published in: _Genevan Psalter_, 1551

Kingo's Holy Communion Hymn - O Jesus, Blessed Lord, TLH #309

"O Jesus, Blessed Lord, to Thee"
By Thomas Hansen Kingo, 1634-1703

1. O Jesus, blessed Lord, to Thee
My heartfelt thanks forever be,
Who hast so lovingly bestowed
On me Thy body and Thy blood.

2. Break forth, my soul, for joy and say
What wealth is come to me this day!
My Savior dwells within my heart:
How blest am I! How good Thou art!

Hymn #309
The Lutheran Hymnal
Text: 2 Cor. 9: 15
Author: Thomas H. Kingo, 1689
Translated by: Arthur J. Mason, 1889
Titled: "O Jesu, soede Jesu, dig"
Tune: "Old Hundredth"
1st Published in: Genevan Psalter, 1551

Shocking Case of Icha-flogging

A layman and I were discussing this yesterday.

Brett Meyer has left a new comment on your post "Looking for a Lutherdom to Rome Website":

No one in the (W)ELCMS even bothered to look up from their Blended Worship bulletin insert when Joe and Lisa Krohn were excommunicated from their fellowship for confessing and defending One Justification By Faith Alone.

Doctrinal indifference has only been exceeded by the pandemic of apathy in the Lutheran Synods due to the ferocious efforts of the Synod Administrators, District Presidents to induce narcolepsy within the laity. They are ripe for the picking. Even those clergy who see the Gospel of Christ being perverted within their fellowship are too afraid to openly oppose it for fear of excommunication and being shunned by men and women who are disgusted by the Lutheran Confessions and teach that God's Word, the Living Water of Life, is muddy and uncertain in regards to doctrine and practice.

Now that Thrivent launders the money of the (W)ELCMS and ELCA they are all supporting the United Nations URI (United Religions Initiative) and makes the transition from Church Growth Emergent to full fledged New Age Antichristian a simple exercise of threatening to expose their shameful incompetence, abysmal lack of the Holy Spirit's faith and in some cases outright deciet. The (W)ELCMS clergy and elders would rather their children and grandchildren be engulfed by New Age Apostacy than to admit they were wrong in true contrition and turn back to the efficacy and perpescuity of Scripture and the faithful Lutheran Confessions.

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Christ Jesus Lay in Death's Strong Bands, TLH 195

"Christ Jesus Lay in Death's Strong Bands"

by Martin Luther, 1483-1546

1. Christ Jesus lay in death's strong bands,
For our offenses given;
But now at God's right hand He stands
And brings us life from heaven;
Therefore let us joyful be
And sing to God right thankfully
Loud songs of hallelujah!
Hallelujah!

2. It was a strange and dreadful strife
When Life and Death contended;
The victory remained with Life,
The reign of Death was ended;
Holy Scripture plainly saith
That Death is swallowed up by Death,
His sting is lost forever.
Hallelujah!

3. Here the true Paschal Lamb we see,
Whom God so freely gave us;
He died on the accursed tree-
So strong His love!-to save us.
See, His blood doth mark our door;
Faith points to it, Death passes o'er,
And Satan cannot harm us.
Hallelujah!

4. So let us keep the festival
Whereto the Lord invites us;
Christ is himself the Joy of all,
The Sun that warms and lights us.
By His grace He doth impart
Eternal sunshine to the heart;
The night of sin is ended.
Hallelujah!

5. Then let us feast this Easter Day
On Christ, the Bread of heaven;
The Word of Grace hath purged away
The old and evil leaven.
Christ alone our souls will feed,
He is our meat and drink indeed;
Faith lives upon no other.
Hallelujah!

The Lutheran Hymnal
Hymn 195
Text: Acts 2:24
Author: Martin Luther, 1524, cento
Translated by: Richard Massie, 1854, alt.
Titled: "Christ lag in Todesbanden"
Tune: "Christ lag in Todesbanden"
Latin melody, c. 1100
Based on "Christ is erstanden"

Awake My Heart With Gladness, TLH 192

"Awake, My Heart, with Gladness"
by Paul Gerhardt, 1607-1676

1. Awake, my heart, with gladness,
See what today is done,
Now after gloom and sadness
Comes forth the glorious Sun!
My Savior there was laid
Where our bed must be made
When to the realms of light
Our spirit wings its flight.

2. The Foe in triumph shouted
When Christ lay in the tomb,
But, lo, he now is routed,
His boast is turned to gloom.
For Christ again is free;
In glorious victory
He who is strong to save
Has triumphed o'er the grave.
3. This is a sight that gladdens;
What peace it doth impart!
Now nothing ever saddens
The joy within my heart;
No gloom shall ever shake,
No foe shall ever take,
The hope which God's own Son
In love for me hath won.

4. Now hell, its prince, the devil,
Of all their power are shorn;
Now I am safe from evil,
And sin I laugh to scorn.
Grim death with all his might
Cannot my soul affright;
He is a powerless form,
Howe'er he rave and storm.

5. The world against me rageth,
Its fury I disdain;
Though bitter war it wageth,
Its work is all in vain.
My heart from care is free,
No trouble troubles me.
Misfortune now is play,
And night is bright as day.

6. Now I will cling forever
To Christ, my Savior true;
My Lord will leave me never,
Whate'er He passes through.
He rends Death's iron chain,
He breaks through sin and pain,
He shatters hell's dark thrall,-
I follow through it all.

7. To halls of heavenly splendor
With Him I penetrate;
And trouble ne'er may hinder
Nor make me hesitate.
Let tempests rage at will,
My Savior shields me still;
He grants abiding peace
And bids all tumult cease.

8. He brings me to the portal
That leads to bliss untold
Whereon this rime immortal
Is found in script of gold:
"Who there My cross hath shared
Finds here a crown prepared;
Who there with Me has died
Shall here be glorified."

The Lutheran Hymnal
Hymn #192
Text: Col. 2:15
Author: Paul Gerhardt
Translated by: John Kelly, 1867, alt.
Titled: "Auf, auf, mein Herz, mit Freuden"
Composer: Johann Crueger, 1648
Tune: "Auf, auf, mein Herz"

WELS Almost Clears Up the Mark Jeske Time of Grace Synod Straddle... In the Future, Maybe, Tentatively. And Jeske Might Act On What They Might Do

Time of Grace update:
The presidium of the Southeastern Wisconsin District, along with President Mark Schroeder, met with leaders of the Lutheran Church—Missouri Synod (LCMS) to clarify how the LCMS defines and understands the Recognized Service Organization (RSO) status. The LCMS explained that the published guidelines defining the relationship are intended to be used by the LCMS in evaluating organizations for this status and that the guidelines do not require an organization to change its message or its program to comply. It was this understanding that led Time of Grace and the presidium of the Southeastern Wisconsin district to conclude that the RSO status did not represent a violation or compromise of biblical fellowship principles.

The LCMS officials also reported that they are currently in the process of reviewing the entire RSO program with the intention of developing new requirements and guidelines. From what was said, the new guidelines may include requirements that would make it no longer possible for a WELS organization to have RSO status. Once those requirements have been adopted, Time of Grace has indicated that it will evaluate what is being required and take the appropriate steps.

Hitler Wants an Easter Egg Hunt and Live Bunnies

Tim Glende:
The mockery of the gospel continues. Jackson has posted another Hitler parody.


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Brett Meyer has left a new comment on your post "Hitler Wants an Easter Egg Hunt and Live Bunnies":

The New Age Emergent Lutheran clergy running the anti-Ichabod blogsite are contending that Luther promoted UOJ in their recent post.

This quote is along the same lines as their abuse of Luther's Confessional teaching regarding the efficacy of the Office of the Keys. They fail to explain how their false gospel of UOJ eliminates the Key to Retain sin. What sins can be retained, according to their central doctrine of UOJ, that God hasn't forgiven them for? In fact UOJ has God declaring the whole unbelieving world righteous. Righteous! The sin of unbelief cannot adhere to the unbelieving world if God declares them righteous. UOJ teaches that God has declared and now sees the world's crimson rags as being as white as snow - righteous. This is Universalism because when individuals have what Jesus has - they are saved eternally and according to UOJ they've been declared by the Almighty God to be this way regardless of whether they believe it or not.

Tied to this is one of the multitude of contradictions that UOJ teaches which is that God forgave the whole unbelieving world all of their sins, declared them justified (forgiven of all sin) and righteous. So why do they go to Hell if they don't believe it? UOJ teaches that they go to Hell because of unbelief - not believing that God has declared them sinless, justified and righteous.

So either Christ did not pay for the sin of unbelief or God refuses to forgive anyone guilty of that sin. BUT EVERYONE WAS BORN GUILTY OF THE SIN OF UNBELIEF. No one believed in Christ or their new false gospel of UOJ when they were born. So then is UOJ prepared to admit that everyone is going to Hell. Is their precious false gospel of abounding rational comfort really a heinous joke where they sugar coat the horrific truth that Christ didn't pay for the one sin everyone is guilty of.

Contrary to UOJ, Scripture teaches that God's wrath remains on all those who do not believe in Christ as the One who paid for their sins. They remain under His wrath and divine judgement. But to all those who repent and believe on Christ by the gracious work of the Holy Ghost through the Means of Grace, Word and Sacrament, God forgives all their sin even the sin of unbelief and they are instantaneously justified, declared righteous in Christ and saved eternally.

Let the maggots fight over the carrion of UOJ - we have been given the beautiful feast of Christ's pure Gospel of the forgiveness of sins given solely through the Means of Grace which is perfectly harmonious with all of Scripture. Praise be to God alone who gives us the victory over sin, death and the power of the Devil - both in this world and that which is to come.

Looking for a Lutherdom to Rome Website

Mr. Jackson,
Since you seem to be the sole arbitrator of Lutheran Orthodoxy (and we both know how sad that fact is ), Could you point me to a comparative Rome Catholic site that would make the transition from Lutheranism to Rome Catholicism smoother, like slipping into a warm bath. I'm almost a pod person already as I don't care a wit about Scripture or doctrine.

this is a satire- don't publish my name
PTM.

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GJ - We made a deal not to reveal his name. I thought this was a good satire, because Rome has hundreds of websites devoted to turning Protestants into papalists - and they are successful. False doctrine is also efficacious, just as cancer and gangrene are effective. But the efficacy is demonic and serves their Father Below.

Where are the Lutheran efforts? ELCA is busy crawling into the lap of the Antichrist and purring for him.

The LCMS is training ministers at their seminaries to become Roman or Eastern Orthodoxy.

WELS is better at turning out Babtists, Pentecostals, and generics.

Here is the great failure of the Synodical Conference (tm):

• No decent books about Roman Catholicism.
• No websites about Lutheran doctrine versus Rome, EO, and Fullerism.
• No honesty about their own doctrinal apostasy.

WELS and Lenski. WELS and J. P. Meyer

This is another reason to loathe or love Lenski.

rlschultz has left a new comment on your post "CPH Will Improve on Lenski, They Claim":

Reformed opposition to Lenski can be found at: http://vintage.aomin.org/Lenskirep.html
It helps to know what your adversaries are saying.


LPC has left a new comment on your post "CPH Will Improve on Lenski, They Claim":

There he goes again.

rlschultz,

Thank you for this information. I had a quick read and White does acknowledge by his attempted rebuttal support my contentions I made at Steadfast Waltherians blog.
There I said that Lenski enjoys the respect of non-Lutheran Protestants.
White's labor in trying to counter Lenski proves my point, that Lenski's views are compelling exegesis admired by other Protestant. For after all, why do that hard work if Lenski is not being taken seriously.

UOJers love to malign Lenski because his exegesis has detrimental conclusions for UOJ.

So we know who is the real Calvinist. It is not the Ichabodians or Team JBFA, it is really the UOJers. Now with the recent project of CPH to counter Lenski's exegesis, we even have more evidence that the UOJers are really the ones that are aligned with the Reformed.

We have made this accusation for many years.

The truth catches up on everyone one day, it just takes a while, but the truth eventually gets there.

LPC

J. P. Meyer is correct about this,
so where are all the J. P. Meyer fans in the Conference of Pussycats?

Thy Strong Word

Thy strong Word did cleave the darkness;
At thy speaking it was done.
For created light we thank Thee
While thine ordered seasons run
Alleluia! Alleluia!
Praise to thee who light dost send!
Alleluia without end!

Lo, on those who dwelt in darkness,
Dark as night and deep as death,
Broke the light of thy salvation,
Breathed thine own life-giving breath.
Alleluia! Alleluia!
Praise to thee who light dost send!
Alleluia without end!

Thy strong Word bespeaks us righteous;
Bright with thine own holiness,
Glorious now, we press toward glory,
And our lives our hopes confess.
Alleluia! Alleluia!
Praise to thee who light dost send!
Alleluia without end!

From the cross thy wisdom shining
Breaketh forth in conqu'ring might;
From the cross forever beameth
All thy bright redeeming light.
Alleluia! Alleluia!
Praise to Thee who light dost send!
Alleluia without end!

Give us lips to sing thy glory,
Tongues thy mercy to proclaim,
Throats to shout the hope that fills us,
Mouths to speak thy holy name.
Alleluia! Alleluia!
May the light which thou dost send,
Fill our songs with alleluias,
Alleluias without end!

God the Father, light-creator,
To Thee laud and honor be.
To Thee, Light from Light begotten,
Praise be sung eternally.
Holy Spirit, light-revealer,
Glory, glory be to Thee.
Mortals, angels, now and ever
Praise the Holy Trinity!

Martin Franzmann, 1907-1976,
was an inerrantist fighting the new trends in Missouri.
His son was my client in St. Louis.

Arm These Thy Soldiers, Mighty Lord

"Arm These Thy Soldiers, Mighty Lord"
by Christopher Wordsworth, 1807-1885

1. Arm these Thy soldiers, mighty Lord,
With shield of faith and Spirit's sword.
Forth to the battle may they go
And boldly fight against the Foe.

2. With banner of the Cross unfurled,
They overcome the evil world
And so at last receive from Thee
The palm and crown of victory.

3. Come, ever-blessed Spirit, come
And make Thy servants' hearts Thy home,
May each a living temple be
Hallowed forever, Lord, to Thee.

4. Enrich that temple's holy shrine
With sevenfold gifts of grace divine;
With wisdom, light, and knowledge bless,
With counsel, strength, fear, godliness.

5. O Trinity in Unity,
One only God and Persons Three,
In whom, through whom, by whom, we live,
To Thee we praise and glory give.

6. Oh, grant us so to use Thy grace
That we may see Thy glorious face
And ever with the heavenly host
Praise Father, Son, and Holy Ghost!

Hymn #332
The Lutheran Hymnal
Text: Eph. 6:13
Author: Christopher Wordsworth, 1862, alt.
Tune: "Erhslt uns, Herr"
1st Published in: Geistliche Lieder
Town: Wittenberg, 1543

On My Heart Imprint Thy Image

Art by Norma Boeckler

"On My Heart Imprint Thine Image"
By Thomas Hansen Kingo, 1634-1703

1. On my heart imprint Thine image,
Blessed Jesus, King of Grace,
That life's riches, cares, and pleasures
Have no power Thee to efface.
This the superscription be:
Jesus, crucified for me,
Is my life, my hope's Foundation,
And my Glory and Salvation.

The Lutheran Hymnal
Hymn #179
Text: Luke 23: 38
Author: Thomas Hansen Kingo, 1689
Translated by: Peer O. Stroemme, 1898, alt.
Titled: "Skriv dig, Jesu, paa mit Hjerte"
Composer: Johann B. Koenig, 1738
Tune: "Der am Kreuz"

Thomas Kingo, Means of Grace Hymn Writer,
1634-1703.

CPH Will Improve on Lenski, They Claim

Two-volume commentary?

bruce-church (https://bruce-church.myopenid.com/) has left a new comment on your post "Missing the Love, Appleton Heroes":

Glende says Icha-buddies attack UOJ and promote JbF, but this UOJers never take a break from attacking sound doctrine. Today, I see McCain is attacking Lenski's justification by faith interpretation of Romans:

What’s Coming Next in the Concordia Commentary Series? Apr 2nd, 2012:

http://cyberbrethren.com/2012/04/02/whats-coming-next-in-the-concordia-commentary-series

According to R. C. H. Lenski (Romans, p. 84), “the great theme of Romans is the Sinner’s Personal Justification by Faith.” Dr. Middendorf suggests that a close reading of the letter reveals that it is more about the community than the individual.

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GJ - Here is the pseudo-academic quote from McCain, in royal blue, to match the new logo. To be fair, he is just kelming the PR blurb from his employer:

Dr. Middendorf suggests that a close reading of the letter reveals that it is more about the community than the individual. Even more importantly, Paul directs our attention primarily toward God and his righteousness, which is his gift to us in our Lord Jesus Christ.

This brief bio suggests he is part of the apostate doctrinal board of the LCMS:

Michael P. Middendorf is professor of theology at Concordia University, Irvine, California. He is the author of several books and articles including The “I” in the Storm: A Study of Romans 7 and “The Bud Has Flowered: Trinitarian Theology in the New Testament.” He also serves on the Commission on Theology and Church Relations of The Lutheran Church—Missouri Synod.

Back in the good old days, the ALC (pre-1960 merger) did everything possible to silence Lenski, because he was a leader in orthodox doctrine. In contrast, Middendorf participates in the destruction of Lutheran doctrine. I wonder why McCain failed to mention the Commission on Bad Theology item. Could it be their odious reputation throughout the synod?

Middendor's own resume suggests that he never stepped out of the LCMS for his education: bachelor's, MDiv, STM, and Th.D. As John Johnson, a previous St. Louis president said, a Missouri doctorate is worthless outside of the LCMS.

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rlschultz has left a new comment on your post "CPH Will Improve on Lenski, They Claim":

Reformed opposition to Lenski can be found at: http://vintage.aomin.org/Lenskirep.html
It helps to know what your adversaries are saying.

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LPC has left a new comment on your post "CPH Will Improve on Lenski, They Claim":

rlschultz,

Thank you for this information. I had a quick read and White does acknowledge by his attempted rebuttal support my contentions I made at Steadfast Waltherians blog.
There I said that Lenski enjoys the respect of non-Lutheran Protestants.
White's labor in trying to counter Lenski proves my point, that Lenski's views are compelling exegesis admired by other Protestant. For after all, why do that hard work if Lenski is not being taken seriously.

UOJers love to malign Lenski because his exegesis has detrimental conclusions for UOJ.

So we know who is the real Calvinist. It is not the Ichabodians or Team JBFA, it is really the UOJers. Now with the recent project of CPH to counter Lenski's exegesis, we even have more evidence that the UOJers are really the ones that are aligned with the Reformed.

We have made this accusation for many years.

The truth catches up on everyone one day, it just takes a while, but the truth eventually gets there.

LPC

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Febreze has left a new comment on your post "Missing the Love, Appleton Heroes":

I just wish they'd post my comments. My most recent one was in response to their claim that they can't count "Jackson's followers on one hand". I tried to comment in this simple way:

"That's because they'll be excommunicated or forced to resign faster than you can say to an openly impenitent parishioner, "You're already forgiven!"

Missing the Love, Appleton Heroes

We laugh at dogma like this,
not at the sound doctrine of the Book of Concord.

Tim Glende:
On his blog the past several weeks, Dr. Gregory L. Jackson and his cronies Brett Meyer, Joe Krohn, Bruce Church and others have been mocking and laughing at the central Biblical teaching of universal objective justification.

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Article V: Of the Ministry.

1] That we may obtain this faith, the Ministry of Teaching the Gospel and administering the Sacraments was instituted. For through the Word and Sacraments, as through instruments, 2] the Holy Ghost is given, who works faith; where and when it pleases God, in them that hear 3] the Gospel, to wit, that God, not for our own merits, but for Christ's sake, justifies those who believe that they are received into grace for Christ's sake.

4] They condemn the Anabaptists [like Andy Stanley] and others who think that the Holy Ghost comes to men without the external Word, through their own preparations and works.

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Febreze has left a new comment on your post "Missing the Love, Appleton Heroes":

I just wish they'd post my comments. My most recent one was in response to their claim that they can't count "Jackson's followers on one hand". I tried to comment in this simple way:

"That's because they'll be excommunicated or forced to resign faster than you can say to an openly impenitent parishioner, "You're already forgiven!"

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GJ - I have heard from people who are attacked because they know me. Glende knows me - they should attack him.

Shunning is a Pietistic characteristic. It is also necessary to attack the person who does not go along with the shunning.

LCMS Changes Their Logo Color. They Even Call It Branding

Missouri just spent a zillion dollars changing their logo to royal blue.

bruce-church (https://bruce-church.myopenid.com/) has left a new comment on your post "Reprise - Zion Mourns in Fear and Anguish. I Heard...":

Hmmm. Let's see. A LCMS member calls you to commiserate, AND you post a bio of hymnist who lost all his worldly possessions. I'd say there's a good possibility that this is a seminary student who was told after his vicar year that he won't be receiving a call, and he up to his eyeballs in student loans from Concordia U and seminary. I refer to the reader back to this Icha-post:

SP Harrison welcomes news student to debtors'  prison:

http://ichabodthegloryhasdeparted.blogspot.com/2012/03/welcome-to-debtors-prison-many-arrive.html

See also:
http://ichabodthegloryhasdeparted.blogspot.com/2012/02/walther-became-pastor-after-four-year.html


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GJ - Wrong on all counts, BC, but you gave me a chance to post the new LCMS logo.

The layman I mentioned has always stood up for sound doctrine. He is deeply disappointed in the clergy.

Reprise - Zion Mourns in Fear and Anguish. I Heard from a Missouri Synod Layman Today.

GJ - This hymn came to mind after I read a long, anguished message from a Missouri Synod layman. Details? The usual assaults from the usual clergy suspects.

"Zion Mourns in Fear and Anguish"
By Johann Heermann, 1585-1647

1. Zion mourns in fear and anguish,
Zion, city of our God.
"Ah," she says, "how sore I languish,
Bowed beneath the chastening rod!
For my God forsook me quite
And forgot my sorry plight
Mid these troubles now distressing,
Countless woes my soul oppressing.

2. "Once," she mourns, "He promised plainly
That His help should e'er be near;
Yet I now must seek Him vainly
In my days of woe and fear.
Will His anger never cease?
Will He not renew His peace?
Will He not show forth compassion
And again forgive transgression?"

3. "Zion, surely I do love thee,"
Thus to her the Savior saith,
"Though with many woes I prove thee
And thy soul is sad to death.
For My troth is pledged to thee;
Zion, thou art dear to Me.
Deep within My heart I've set thee,
That I never can forget thee.

4. "Let not Satan make thee craven;
He can threaten, but not harm.
On My hands thy name is graven,
And thy shield is My strong arm.
How, then, could it ever be
I should not remember thee,
Fail to build thy wall, My city,
And look down on thee with pity?

5. "Ever shall Mine eyes behold thee;
On My bosom thou art laid.
Ever shall My love enfold thee;
Never shalt thou lack Mine aid.
Neither Satan, war, nor stress
Then shall mar thy happiness:
With this blessed consolation
Be thou firm in tribulation."

Hymn #268
The Lutheran Hymnal
Text: Is. 49: 14-17
Author: Johann Heermann, 1636, ab.
Translated by: Catherine Winkworth, 1869, alt.
Titled: "Zion klagt mit Angst und Schmerzen"
Composer: J. Hermann Schein, 1623
Tune: "Zion klagt"

Johann Hermann lost all his possessions, many times, when Catholic forces repeatedly sacked his city during the Thirty Years War, one of the worst times for faithful Lutherans. He also wrote "Ah Holy Jesus, What Law Hast Thou Broken," #143, and "O God Thou Faithful God" #395.


"O Dearest Jesus, What Law Hast Thou Broken"
By Johann Heermann, 1585-1647

1. O dearest Jesus, what law hast thou broken
That such sharp sentence should on Thee be spoken?
Of what great crime hast Thou to make confession, --
What dark transgression?

2. They crown Thy head with thorns, they smite, they scourge Thee;
With cruel mockings to the cross they urge Thee;
They give Thee gall to drink, they still decry Thee;
They crucify Thee.

3. Whence come these sorrows, whence this mortal anguish?
It is my sins for which Thou, Lord, must languish;
Yea, all the wrath, the woe, Thou dost inherit,
This I do merit.

4. What punishment so strange is suffered yonder!
The Shepherd dies for sheep that loved to wander;
The Master pays the debt His servants owe Him,
Who would not know Him.

5. The sinless Son of God must die in sadness;
The sinful child of man may live in gladness;
Man forfeited his life and is acquitted, --
God is committed.

6. There was no spot in me by sin untainted;
Sick with sin's poison, all my heart had fainted;
My heavy guilt to hell had well-nigh brought me,
Such woe it wrought me.

7. O wondrous love, whose depth no heart hath sounded,
That brought Thee here, by foes and thieves surrounded!
All worldly pleasures, heedless, I was trying
While Thou wert dying.

8. O mighty King, no time can dim Thy glory!
How shall I spread abroad Thy wondrous story?
How shall I find some worthy gifts to proffer?
What dare I offer?

9. For vainly doth our human wisdom ponder, --
Thy woes, Thy mercy, still transcend our wonder.
Oh, how should I do aught that could delight Thee!
Can I requite Thee?

10. Yet unrequited, Lord, I would not leave Thee;
I will renounce whate'er doth vex or grieve Thee
And quench with thoughts of Thee and prayers most lowly
All fires unholy.

11. But since my strength will nevermore suffice me
To crucify desires that still entice me,
To all good deeds, oh, let Thy Spirit win me
And reign within me!

12. I'll think upon Thy mercy without ceasing,
That earth's vain joys to me no more be pleasing;
To do Thy will shall be my sole endeavor
Henceforth forever.

13. Whate'er of earthly good this life may grant me,
I'll risk for Thee; no shame, no cross, shall daunt me;
I shall not fear what man can do to harm me
Nor death alarm me.

14. But worthless is my sacrifice, I own it;
Yet, Lord, for love's sake Thou wilt not disown it;
Thou wilt accept my gift in Thy great meekness
Nor shame my weakness.

15. And when, dear Lord, before Thy throne in heaven
To me the crown of joy at last is given,
Where sweetest hymns Thy saints forever raise Thee,
I, too, shall praise Thee.

The Lutheran Hymnal
Hymn #143
Text: Luke 23: 20-24
Author: Johann Heermann, 1630
Translated by: Catherine Winkworth, 1863, alt.
Titled: "Herzliebster Jesu"
Composer: Johann Crueger, 1640
Tune: "Herzlebster Jesu"

Icha-flogging: Join the Synodical Sport.Much Easier Than Facing the Truth

Faithful laity need to be flogged regularly,
to keep them in the right frame of mind.

Whenever someone shows signs of thinking outside the synodical cesspool, the accusations start flying.

Various people have found this blog because they came to their own conclusions about UOJ. For instance, Brett Meyer must have doing some searching on the topic of UOJ, which I covered on a regular basis. Brett is the one who encouraged me to move up to video services. We had used phone teleconference before.

Rather than address the doctrinal issues, the UOJ wolves get out their flails and begin accusing, always in the most derogatory and nasty manner possible. I have heard it all before, from the same pack of wolves. I was a disciple of Larry Darby, or he was my disciple. I was a disciple of Walter Maier, although I did not read his material until recently.

Beating people up because they have posted on Ichabod should be called Icha-flogging. It will be entered into the official lexicon soon.

Many people have been chased away from this blog by a stern phone call or message from SP Mark Schroeder. The silenced ones are sworn to secrecy. And yet Mark is helpless to do anything about Jeske, Gunn, Glende, Ski, or Parlow. Church and Change has no better friend than Mark Schroeder, no better defender than the SP.

Most of the Visible Churches Teach UOJ. Most of the World Is Pagan. That Puts UOJ/CGM on the Winning Side?

Brett Meyer has left a new comment on your post "Fake-o-Blog Stepping Up the Pace":

Anti-Ichabod is confirming that the denizens of Sodom and Gomorrah are by their central doctrine of Universal Objective Justification, declared by God to be sinless, justified and righteous. UOJ teaches that they are now sinless saints in Hell. (W)ELS' Siegbert W. Becker confirmed this in his foundational essay on Justification.

In response to Kokomo #1

1) Objectively speaking, without any reference to an individual sinner’s attitude toward Christ’s sacrifice, purely on the basis of God’s verdict, every sinner, whether he knows it or not, whether he believes it or not, has received the status of a saint.

S.W. Becker states, "The first statement can easily be misunderstood and has caused confusion. The Bible never uses the word saint, when applied to human beings, in any other sense than a converted Christian. Those who have read those words in the context of John Meyer’s Ministers of Christ know what Prof. Meyer wanted to say in that sentence. The key words are “objectively speaking” and “status.” Meyer simply wanted to say that the sins of all men are forgiven. “Status of a saint” to him meant “the legal state of a forgiven sinner.” While we may disagree with his use of English, we cannot as biblical theologians surrender what he wanted to say. Nevertheless it would have been better if he had not used the word saint in that connection, especially since the word “received” is also a word that is often used in describing the function of faith in justification. We receive the status of saint for ourselves or accept forgiveness through faith.

The same criticism can be directed against the second statement. One really becomes a guilt-free saint only through faith, if we limit ourselves to the biblical usage of the word. However, since our holiness, as Augustine says, consists in sin’s remission rather than in life’s perfection, we could say that when God forgave the sins of the whole world he regarded all sinners as guilt-free, but if they are guilt-free we might also say that they are considered sinless in the sight of God. But a sinless person is a holy person, a saint. The fact that 15 unbelievers do not consider themselves to be forgiven does not change the truth of God’s Word that tells us that God does not impute the sins of all men to them, or that through one man justification has come upon all men.

Even the fourth statement can be defended even though it leaves much to be desired. As we have said, the statement is not drawn from a WELS source. If it is true that God has forgiven the sins of the world then it is also true that he forgave the sin of Judas. When Jesus called Judas “friend” in the garden, he was in effect treating him as a forgiven sinner. If Jesus took away the sins of the world he also took away the sins of the people who died in the flood. It is surely no more difficult to believe that God forgave sins that were already being punished than to believe that at the time of the resurrection he forgave sins that had not yet been committed. How that is possible I do not know. It very likely finds its explanation in the divine attribute of eternity. But while the statement can be defended as expressing a biblical reality, yet it would be best not to speak in such terms. In Scandinavia it is customary on the part of some to ridicule universal justification with the remark, “The damned lie in hell with their forgiven sins.” So this fourth statement is a caricature which has a tendency to make universal justification look ridiculous.

Enjoy your central doctrine of UOJ Anti-Ichabod it is an abomination.

Fake-o-Blog Stepping Up the Pace

Condescending Wonka is condescending.

Sensitive Tim Glende:
As we expected, Jackson responded to this last post of ours with a picture of Willy Wonka, as he bragged about how many posts he's made recently compared to our site. Dr. Jackson may have lots of time to post, and he may have plenty of viewers who check on his blog for their daily laugh, but we can count his followers on one hand.

Lulu.com Has A Mystery Sale - Any Book - No Code Required - Through April 6

Lulu has a mystery discount program going for this week. Click here for MCP books. This time you do not need to use a code. The discount will be applied as you add books.

All the books are also available as free PDF downloads. See the link on the left.

The fake blogger must write a lot of books and poems and songs, because there are thousands listed on the Net - all by Anonymous.

Finding Another Piece of the UOJ Puzzle

Professor Kurt Marquart

When people mentioned "the Marquart essay," I thought they meant the one given at Trinity LCMS in Bridgeton, Missouri.

Apparently they meant the one in the Preus festschrift, which I have reproduced as PNGs (pings).

Strangely, he went farther than Deutschlander in ascribing UOJ to the Book of Concord, so I can see what his MDiv graduates are so fond of the same absurdities.

Some time ago, LaughQuest tried the Ambrose quotation on their skunk-patch audience. I quoted the passage immediately afterwards, to show how they were deliberately deceiving their readers.

 This is their precious UOJ, copied from the Marquart essay:

Book of Concord, Formula of Concord, Solid Declaration, The Righteousness of Faith:


103] Here and there among the Fathers similar testimonies are extant. For Ambrose says in his letter to a certain Irenaeus: Moreover, the world was subject to Him by the Law for the reason that, according to the command of the Law, all are indicted, and yet, by the works of the Law, no one is justified, i.e., because, by the Law, sin is perceived, but guilt is not discharged. The Law, which made all sinners, seemed to have done injury, but when the Lord Jesus Christ came, He forgave to all sin which no one could avoid, and, by the shedding of His own blood, blotted out the handwriting which was against us. This is what he says in Rom. 5:20: "The Law entered that the offense might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound." Because after the whole world became subject, He took away the sin of the whole world, as he [John] testified, saying John 1:29: "Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world."

But they omit, as Marquart did, the section following immediately afterwards.

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"And on this account let no one boast of works, because no one is justified by his deeds. But he who is righteous has it given him because he was justified after the laver [of Baptism]. Faith, therefore, is that which frees through the blood of Christ, because he is blessed "whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered," Ps. 32:1,104] These are the words of Ambrose, which clearly favor our doctrine; he denies justification to works, and ascribes to faith that it sets us free 105] through the blood of Christ. Let all the Sententiarists, who are adorned with magnificent titles, be collected into one heap. For some are called angelic; others, subtile, and others irrefragable [that is, doctors who cannot err.] When all these have been read and reread, they will not be of as much aid for understanding Paul as is this one passage of Ambrose.

106] To the same effect, Augustine writes many things against the Pelagians. In Of the Spirit and Letter he says: The righteousness of the Law, namely, that he who has fulfilled it shall live in it, is set forth for this reason that when any one has recognized his infirmity he may attain and work the same and live in it, conciliating the Justifier not by his own strength nor by the letter of the Law itself (which cannot be done), but by faith."

Besides this crime of ripping a quotation out of context, they follow the assumptions of Marquart, which contradict the Scripture and baffle anyone not inducted into UOJ thinking.

I kelmed this from Brett Meyer, who kelmed it from the essay. 

“Logically there is here at least the suggestion of a circle: On the one hand forgiveness is the result of faith, and thus comes after faith, and on the other hand it is the object of faith and therefore goes before faith.

One way of resolving the paradox would be to say that by forgiveness as object of faith here is meant not anything actually existing before faith, but simply the principle of how sin is or will be forgiven, namely by grace through faith. Forgiveness then would not in any sense exist before faith. It would occur as soon as faith accepted the principle that forgiveness occurs in this way. Thus, forgiveness as the object of faith would not be anything past or completed, but something essentially future or present. This line of reasoning, however, suggests another "feedback circuit": "I am forgiven when I believe that I am forgiven when I believe that I am forgiven, etc." page 3

Here is another false UOJ statement:

It is very dear here that forgiveness, in the form of the absolution, exists before and independently of faith, and creates or gives birth to it. Forgiveness or absolution (that is, the Gospel itself) creates faith; faith merely receives or accepts forgiveness. Absolution can exist without faith (although its benefits of course go to waste unless faith receives them), but faith cannot exist without absolution. Page 4.

Those statements are apparently the LQ source for saying, "Your faith is in faith." If anyone can follow the twists and turns in those statements, send me a telegram.

The Formula of Concord is lucid. This Marquart essay is opaque, a transparent effort to promote a dogma that gets lamer as time goes by, doubtless because the current crop of Enthusiasts are repeaters of class notes.

Ironically, the festschrift tried so hard to promote UOJ in honor of Robert Preus, but Hardt and Marquart simply revealed how shallow the argumentation is.


They go beyond the clear meaning of Scripture. Marquart definitely gives "forgiveness" the meaning of absolution, the declaration of forgiveness.

The Scriptures and the Confessions can use "forgiveness" in the sense of the atonement, but nowhere is the atonement confused with justification by faith. The two are separate. (The UOJ Enthusiasts scream "Limited Atonement" without a shred of evidence.)

So we have the same word - forgiveness- taken two different ways. One way is the Scriptural and Confessional use - Christ is our righteousness. He has paid for the sins of the world with His death on the cross. That is the Gospel, the reconciliation, the message by which the Holy Spirit plants and sustains faith.

The false and misleading use of forgiveness is a merger of two terms - atonement and justification, making them the same thing - that God declared the entire world forgiven of sin the moment Christ died on the cross, or the moment He rose from the dead.

The Enthusiasts have not decided which Moment of Absolution is true, although they consider themselves to be great experts on the Word.

The current crop of MDivs have no trouble complaining about Luther and Lenski, but they cannot handle their professors being wrong about anything. Watch them go ballistic on their blogs, which prove they can type - but not write.

Finding the furtive UOJ gets increasingly absurd.
Walther has many statements in Law and Gospel that
puncture the extremes of UOJ today.
General Justification - invented.
Objective Justification - invented.
UOJ - invented.

Sodom, Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and everyone who died in the Genesis Flood?
Only in the NNIV, which WELS is still promoting.

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AC V has left a new comment on your post "Marquart's UOJ Essay in the Robert Preus Festschri...":

Right out of the gate, first paragraph, first sentence, first footnote, I think he's on to something:

The term "objective justification" has only recently come into standard Lutheran usage.1

Footnote:

1. The terminology "objective" and "subjective" here is not altogether happy since "subjective justification...is every whit as objective as objective justification"

Can we agree to consign the terms to a footnote in church history or to the circular file of unfortunate and misleading, if not erroneous theological terminology?

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AC V has left a new comment on your post "Finding Another Piece of the UOJ Puzzle":

In case you don't understand it, "is not altogether happy" is a euphemism for:

"is a bad idea!"


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GJ - I caught that, Acey, but we must take into account the lack of reading comprehension among UOJ fanatics. They are so unhappy with the Bible that they need the NNIV porno-mytho-mainline version to certify their false doctrine.

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Brett Meyer has left a new comment on your post "Finding Another Piece of the UOJ Puzzle":

While reading the Marquart & Co. essay last night it struck me what the UOJ doctrine's object of faith is. It is not Christ and His payment for the sins of the world. It is forgiveness. UOJ's faith is created by and focused on the person's forgiveness, justification and declaration of being righteous. Buchholz and Becker say the same thing, that faith can't be created by a promise but must have something that is already a reality for it to cling to. They reject the promise of the forgiveness of sins in Christ as being a reality. For UOJists it must be the already divinely pronounced absolution that faith can cling to. Marquart speaks of this as forgiveness or justification as the object of faith. This is wrong and leads people to reject the Holy Spirit's faith which does so much, works contrition over sin, causes the individual to die to sin and through faith in Christ rise to life under God's grace - quickening the spirit.

UOJ is a false gospel and the more these guys talk about it the more they expose their errors.

Maybe the Jesuit contingent in the (W)ELS and LCMS will be bold enough to write the official UOJ confession that every layman can read - but they are too afraid to talk about this heinous doctrine openly in their churches.

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GJ - Brett, they use the straw man fallacy to build their straw palaces, all dedicated to UOJ.


KJV 1 Corinthians 3:12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay,
stubble; 13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be
revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

Their work will turn to ashes - and much of it has already.

Marquart's UOJ Essay in the Robert Preus Festschrift

AC V has left a new comment on your post "Marquart's UOJ Essay in the Robert Preus Festschri...":

Right out of the gate, first paragraph, first sentence, first footnote, I think he's on to something:

The term "objective justification" has only recently come into standard Lutheran usage.1

Footnote:

1. The terminology "objective" and "subjective" here is not altogether happy since "subjective justification...is every whit as objective as objective justification"

Can we agree to consign the terms to a footnote in church history or to the circular file of unfortunate and misleading, if not erroneous theological terminology?

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AC V has left a new comment on your post "Finding Another Piece of the UOJ Puzzle":

In case you don't understand it, "is not altogether happy" is a euphemism for:

"is a bad idea!"