The old WELS just ain't what she used to be....what's the difference between this conference and 'church and change'? Seems to be another wolf in sheep's clothing!
http://www.wels.net/cgi-bin/site.pl?2601&collectionID=960
http://www.wels.net/cgi-bin/site.pl?1712&cxDatabase_databaseID=1&id=9209&magazine=Forward%20in%20Christ
God forbid anyone should be uncomfortable in their worship experience... Please keep up the good work.
WELS Layman
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GJ - I hear from all over. I omit names and identifying facts because I know how vindictive the Wisconsin Synod apostates are. Too bad the faithful must suffer under the benighted leadership of Fuller Seminary and Willow Creek graduates.
James P. Tiefel (nicknamed Teufel) is a dyed-in-the-wool apostate. His hymnal managed to be the worst and the most obnoxious of all Lutheran hymnals: feminist revision of hymns, feminist butchering of the Creeds, sloppy sentiment songs posing as hymns, Church Growth hymns, Pietism in the liturgy, etc. The design of CW (Can't Worship) was identical to ELCA's hymnal. I wonder why. Lots of credit to ELCA sources in CW. Once again, I wonder why.
CW (notice Lutheran disappearing from all WELS products?) was so bad that the ELS dropped out and created their own hymnal. The CW editor will teach y'all how to worship. Save your money and drop in at Willow Creek, a few miles away. At least they are honest about their agenda.
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Brian P Westgate has left a new comment on your post "WELS Layman":
Prof. Tiefel was on the liturgy committee, so you can blame him for some of the problems in that portion. He didn't agree with everything that happened there, and some stuff he did agree with then he no longer agrees with. He didn't have much control over the hymn section, since the hymn committee had more votes than the liturgy committee. They were the ones that cut stanzas, brought in bad hymns, etc.
In other words, it's not all his fault, so it might be appropriate to spread the blame around.
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GJ - Note that the ELS quit the project to create their own hymnal, then publicly denied that they quit the joint project. To wit, Erling Teigen published a letter in Christian News to that effect. No one who knew about the conflict was fooled. After all, why would two denominations who "cherish their fellowship" publish two hymnals at the same time? The ELS version had more confessional material in it but also plenty of ELCA credits.
