Thursday, May 24, 2012

Flop-Sweat Time for UOJ Enthusiasts - Pope Paul the Unlearned Copies Another Post



AC V has left a new comment on your post "The Book of Concord Is a Book of Harmony, But the ...":

Paul T. McCain weighs in today.

http://cyberbrethren.com/2012/05/24/kurt-marquart-on-objective-justification/#more-15416

I would say Marquart equivocates:

Rather both must be seen as the two sides of a single truth: All men are justified in Jesus Christ and only the faithful are justified in Jesus Christ.





Please tell me how that makes any sense. Do the Confessions speak like this, let alone the Bible? Why do we Synodical Conference Lutherans think we can improve on the Book of Concord or the Bible with our philosophical terminology?

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GJ - The Preus brothers got rid of WAM II as a presidential candidate by attacking him viciously in public, beating him like a rented mule because of his emphasis on justification by faith - rather than Walther-Stephan's Easter absolution Enthusiasm.

The Robert Preus crowd was stuck with UOJ when he became Ft. Wayne's president after the beat down of Maier.

McCain always gets his facts wrong about Trinity in Bridgeport, but he seems to retreating from his recent inventions. McCain does not write - he simply copies. He is very much like Obama, always getting himself into trouble when communicating off the cuff.

The more the Enthusiasts post about UOJ, the better. Robert Preus repudiated their religion in Justification and Rome.

Justification without faith cannot be found until Samuel Huber proclaimed it, getting his evil doctrine repudiated when he was tossed from the Wittenberg faculty.

The next manifestation of justification without faith came from Pietism, taught by Knapp at Halle University, supported by Rambach, embraced by Bishop Stephan, and copied by the Great Kidnapper - Walther.





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LPC has left a new comment on your post "Flop-Sweat Time for UOJ Enthusiasts - Pope Paul th...":

Correct. When I first heard of the problems with UOJ from Ichabod, I ran to Marquart only to find the absurd statements he made. I was amazed at how he can represent the Scripture to be self- contradictory on this point. I was not impressed. The essay did not clarify but rather further obscured the central doctrine of the church.

LPC

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Brett Meyer has left a new comment on your post "Flop-Sweat Time for UOJ Enthusiasts - Pope Paul th...":

There is a good discussion of Marquart's paper here:

http://www.intrepidlutherans.com/2010/11/justification-marquart-recap.html