|Will life-coaching spoil Pastor Ski?|
Pastor emeritus Nathan Bickel has left a new comment on your post "Is Ski Involved in the Latest Fad: Life-Coaching?C...": Ichabod -
From the looks of your posting, me thinks that WELS may be promoting Ski as the synod's "everyman." How blest is he to be their poster boy! What a cultural idol to behold!
Nathan M. Bickel
rlschultz has left a new comment on your post "Life-Coaches Coaching Wannabee Life-Coaches, Becau...":
I ask these questions rhetorically. Are all adults really this clueless? What rational being would shell out $1300 for this? What is the hidden agenda here?
Ten years from now, only a few of us will ever remember that this scam even existed. By then, the sucker churches will have moved on to the next has been fad. I would rather eat broken glass than to be put through this rigmarole.
GJ - Yes, many are that clueless.
Spot the grammatical mistakes in the Christian life-coaching promotion.
More on Christian life-coaching can be found here.
One rumor is that Ski's six-month paid vacation will feature life-coaching, a fad I heard about in the late 1980s, so it is time for it to nestle into WELS and the Little Sect on the Prairie.
Classic Ichabod - 2009 -
Here is the link.
Kenneth J. Schmidt has left a new comment on your post "ELS/WELS Life Coaches":
So-Called "Life Coaching" apart from being the fad of the week in American Evangelical circles, shares a common pedigree with the Church Growth Movement. Both are outgrowths of management consulting. Life Coaching grew out of Executive Coaching which grew out of management consulting which has its origins in turn in Peter Drucker and similar management gurus. I am good at spotting these connections only because I studied Criminal Justice under Dr. Bohdan Yaworsky, the eminent Criminal Justice Management expert at New Jersey City University back in the 90's.
GJ - When Mischke pal Jeb Schaeffer wrote about the CG conference attended by WELS leaders at Snowbird, he listed one of them as "a Church Growth icon," while LB listed another as president of the Peter Drucker
|Philosoraptor is a popular theme for Internet comments.|
AC V has left a new comment on your post "Youth Groups Want To Know":
About Christy Geiger of Synergy Strategies:
Christy Geiger is a business coach and trainer based out of Shakopee MN. After getting her BA in Psychology, masters in Marriage Family Child counseling and working in corporate America in HR, Christy became certified in life coaching and started her own coaching company, Synergy Strategies, in 2002. In training Christy focuses on life balance and design, time management, goal setting and strategic thinking. In all things, Christy seeks to take the best from the “personal growth and development” field, and through collaboration with her husband, Mike (pastor at WELS church, Good Shepherd Lutheran in Burnsville, MN) take the relevant skills, process and principles and apply them in a way that God-pleasing, consistent with Christian principles and biblical teaching. As a ministry, Christy hopes to share these relevant life principles to support pastors, church leaders and Christians to have more effective and contagious faith lives. Christy enjoys time with her family: Mike and their two daughters (Mikylie, age 5 and Mikenna, age 2) and doing activities like scrapbooking, gardening, volleyball, and coffee with friends. Christy will present a workshop focusing on how the Treasure supports us in our daily lives.
Info obtained from the "Got Peace" Women's Retreat 2010 Loves Park, IL. Her husband, Mike, is on the WELS Institute for Worship & Outreach.
More Classic Ichabod:
From the latest Martin Luther College (WELS) Day of Enthusiasm:
Pastor Mike Geiger currently serves as the pastor of Outreach, Adult Discipleship and Worship at Good Shepherd Lutheran Church in Burnsville, MN. Prior to coming to Minnesota, he had the opportunity to begin a congregation in Cary, North Carolina. Moving a group through the startup and development stages allowed for many leadership challenges and opportunities. Outreach and leadership has always been at the center of his ministry both locally and synodically. He served for 10 years as the North Atlantic District Coordinator for Church Growth and currently is a member of the WELS Commission on Evangelism. With a love for leadership and helping others grow in this area, he has been certified with the world-renowned leadership personality, John Maxwell, as a speaker, trainer and coach. His dedicated wife Christy is not only active in various ministries, but owns her own business coaching company, Synergy Strategies. Together with their two girls, Mikylie and Mikenna, they love being part of growing God’s people and God’s kingdom.
|Let's open another can of Eighth Commandment on him.|
GJ - Typical WELS Church Growth - a string of vague and unsubstantiated accusations plus a command to phone. But did Mike Geiger phone me?
At this point it is fair to assume that any speaker for Church and Chicanery is firmly in their doctrinal grip.
Mike, you should read your Book of Concord. As Luther explained in the Large Catechism, public error does not require private admonition. Church and Change has been promoting its doctrinal errors in public for some time now.
Anyone in Lutherdom is free to criticize the substance of Ichabod. I noticed that the Church and Chance list-serve was quite verbose about me when Joe Krohn asked, "Are we really inviting a Baptist, Ed Stetzer, to speak at our next conference?" Apparently Krohn did not believe Stetzer's twitter, Stetzer's blog, or Stetzer's published schedule. So Church and Change answered Joe by attacking me, not addressing a pertinent question from one of their most devoted disciples. A few more exchanges like that and Joe may drop his bass guitar in favor of a Triglotta. Think of the loss, Mike! [January, 2009 - and it came true]
I think the odious Don Patterson Network has decided to fight back.
Don loves, loves, loves Time of Grace, which LCMS pastors call Time of Wrath.
Don is not a Church and Change leader, according to Don, but the same names linked to him (including his own) keep popping up. Geiger went to the "last" Church and Change confab, although that was another smokescreen.
Every year, Martin Luther College's Evangelism Day has been a Church and Change convention. The only differences in 2012 were: 1) They hid the agenda, though not carefully enough. 2) Paul Calvin Kelm was not the keynote speaker.
Church and Change started in Appleton, which is Thrivent-City. The insurance business is dedicated to sales, not Lutheran doctrine. Some of the founders of Church and Change are:
1. John Parlow.
2. Jeff Johnson.
3. Steve Witte.
Note that Parlow got the Thrivent grant, so he hired Jeff Johnson (from his own parish) and Mike Geiger, Inc to use up more Thrivent grant money. Witte is busy running the Asian porta-seminary.
Mark Freier, covered in the post below, was one of the Shrinkers promoted by WELS, turning a supposed Lutheran mission (CrossRoads, S. Lyons) into a Evangelical Covenant congregation. The non-Lutheran pastor of the non-Lutheran congregation used to thank three (3) WELS pastors for the gift, but that thank-you was erased from their history.
In keeping with all lying Shrinkers, CrossRoads claims to be non-denominational but identifies with the Evangelical Covenant Church on its own page. The only non-denominational claims I believe are from WELS and LCMS Shrinker locations. They truly have no confession of faith, no affiliation except to Mammon.
rlschultz has left a new comment on your post "Leverage Your Income By Joining the Don PattersonC...":
When I hear the title coach, I think of a sports team. Perhaps this concept is easy for some to identify with as so many in this country are rabid about spectator sports. I am curious. What professional organization certifies life coaches? I understand that in some professions, certification is a feather in the hat as there can be a lack of consistency between degreed programs. But, one does not get a BA in Life Coaching. It seems like this whole coaching nonsense started in the corporate world and has crept into the trendy churches.
GJ - Note my latest post, showing that people still refuse to believe how bad things are in WELS and Missouri, even though they can find out for themselves in five minutes of Google searching. I even did that for them on Facebook, and no one responded.
The life-coaches make people spend a lot of money to be certified as life-coaches under them. TV did an expose of them, so naturally the Church and Change guys adopted the scam. Kudu Don Patterson is a life coach. Kudu Don's African safari buddy is behind Grace in Action, too.
For only $1300, Don will coach you for a year.
One of the Moldstads is behind "Grace in Action," and it seems to have plenty of support from the Minnesota WELS. The usual Church and Change nogoodniks are at Grace in Action: Time of Grace, Jeff Gunn, CrossWalk, Elton Stroh.
Mike Geiger and his wife, veterans of Kudu Don Patterson's church, are life coaches selling their services, via Thrivent, to Parlow's Church Growth hive in Fox Valley.
Good news - fans of the English language. I looked up the list of leaders of WELS, and they are no longer "nenbers" as they were for many months.
Someone is reading Ichabod and saying, "Fix those bloopers."
ELCA still has one of their fired executives being raised on an Iowa diary farm, and he has been gone from the Chicago executive job for months.
Joel has left a new comment on your post "Is Ski Involved in the Latest Fad: Life-Coaching?C...":
Speaking of grammatical errors:
Night of to (SIC) many stars.
GJ - Poor Joel - the error was in the original graphic.
Since you are a daily reader - give us a disposition on Ski. Why are the Fox Valley WELS congregations concealing the truth?