Wednesday, October 7, 2009

Time of Gath - Is Jeske a Christian?



Jeske's message today bordered on the occult.
Forget Kieschnick - welcome Napoleon Hill. Set yourself down ri-chere, Napoleon.


Church and Chicanery reminds me of Skull and Bones at Yale, but without the glamor. Both are secret societies where the best evidence of influence comes from tracing the network of leaders.

Various people and Google have helped me see how Church and Chicanery gradually took over WELS, with the help of Mischke and Gurgle, until their apostate guidance was overthrown (partially) by electing SP Mark Schroeder. The 2009 WELS convention confirmed how little the membership cherished the decades of doctrinal error and unashamed unionism.

Mark Jeske is obviously one of the main leaders of Church and Change today. All the threads lead back to him and a few other leaders - the Appleton gang and the Don Patterson network, plus WLCFS.

The message we watched today was another treat for people with attention deficit problems. Back and forth, from the church to the office, Jeske spoke about Paul. That is typical Reformed sermonizing - avoiding the Gospel of Christ to speak about Biblical figures as examples to follow. Paul's suffering was compared to individual suffering today and rated with metallic standards, from aluminum to platinum. Sure enough, I found a "platinum level of suffering" on the Net - from another Reformed minister. Funny how Mark and this minister both came up with the exact same term, which Jeske called his own.

The most disturbing part of this message came when Jeske spoke about prayer as "using the power of the universe" to help us in personal matters and in business. That language is right from Napoleon Hill (occult) and Paul Y. Cho (occultic ex Assemblies of God minister, Korea). Norman Vincent Peale kelmed the same concept from an occult author. No surprise - Peale still appeals to WELS.

Jeske also invoked UOJ terms, saying that the resurrection of Christ "guaranteed our justification." That is from the Walther Easter absolution sermon, the core of Missouri, WELS, and ELS claiming "Everyone in the world was absolved of all sin the moment Christ rose from the dead." I have never found a Church Shrinker deviating from UOJ because Enthusiasts love both aspects of their false doctrine.

Church Growth is so much easier when the Law is obsolete and sin is no longer mentioned. That has also made it so much easier for CG gurus to jump into bed with their eager disciples.

Years ago the Evangelical and Pentecostal CG gurus were veering into the occult. After all, Cho was an honored lecturer at Fuller Seminary. Many Pentecostals today speak the same occultic language as Cho and Peale.

I can understand why the Chicaneries are so arrogant. They have repudiated all their ordination vows but they stay on top, even after episodes of shocking self-destruction. Like Jeske, in his faux-confessions, they admit to being cross at times, but they hate and avoid the cross. They offer glory, success, and the wages for eternity of their Father Below. (See The Pilgrim's Progress, by Bunyan.)

6 comments:

Anonymous said...

Why does WELS keeping turning a blind eye to the heretics in its ranks?

Anonymous said...

Anon, that is my question exactly. These people are doing all this out in the open and in plain sight. What consequences will they suffer? Will WELS ever wake up and see that to ever become this truly confessional church they must cut out the cancer growing amongst us? What can the average person sitting in the pew do? It is very discouraging and troubling that nothing seems to be going on to get rid of some of these guys. Pr Schroeder, please start polishing that left boot and then use it!

Anonymous said...

This just in from the Icabod News Network.

First German, manitowoc, WI has been undergoing restructuring under the auspices of Parish Services and lead by visting counselor Paul Kelm. Round one started in January with all the charts and graphs showing the decline of membership. Funny, after having 2 pastors and a pastor of Hmong outreach, they are still having a problem of growth. There should be many times each week where the Law and Gospel is proclaimed. Let the results be up to the Lord.

But the hand wringing has successfully been started and the next stages are ready for implement. It's too bad there are no leaders in the congregation who can see this for what it is and stand up and so NO, we will not let our church become destroyed with the allurments of success at all costs.

First German, you are not on "life support", you never were and you should know what the means fo Grace are and should rely on them soley.

Carry your Gospel of the cross, not of Glory.

Anonymous said...

In WELSdom, it's supposed to be the duty of the district presidents to uphold doctrine and practice within their respective districts. Jeske is SE Wisconsin District--WELS. David Rutschow is DP of SE Wisconsin District--WELS. Will Rutschow hold Jeske's feet to the fire? Hold not your breath! Witness how the pattern of foolishness at WLC (Marty (ELCA), Weakland (RC), Kaiser (Reformed)has gone on without any real corrective discipline. The COP had to formulate its infamous "outside the framework of fellowship" canon to mollify confessional types while at the same time opening up a loophole for the Shrinkers. So, Jeske makes nice with the S. Wis. LC-MS in convention and discourses at Concordia-Mequon. WELS principles of fellowship and unionism can no longer be taken seriously when DP's fail to address this stuff.

Anonymous said...

Jeske was playing his game long before President Schroeder came on the scene. He has what, eight years on the air not announcing his denominational affiliation in order for his listeners/watchers to learn more from their local WELS congregation.

I'm not in the WELS, so I don't know for certain, but my guess is that the WELS president does not have the authority to bounce Jeske on his own.

Jeske has used St. Marcus and the WELS as a springboard for HIS ministry.

Jeske, what do you want to be when you grow up? Do you want to be the Pastor of a congregation and serve in that call to the best of your God given ability, or do you want to be a televangelist?

Your TV show is chopped up and impossible to follow. Based on that, my guess is that your sermons and Bible classes are no different.

Choose one or the other and give it all you've got.

Anonymous said...

Mark Jeske is a disgusting human being period. To promote a "lutheran church" (a cult that calls themselves Lutheran) that is all about damning everyone (but them of course,) to Hell on television
by selling it as a message of love.