Many people know that the ELS brought up WELS women celebrating communion. One of the unwritten rules is to avoid naming the situation or the people involved. That rule is necessarily broken when someone brings up error in doctrine and practice. Then numerous people claim to know all kinds of evil to toss at that person, so the individual can be buried under tons of synodical mud. Thus Corky was "brain-damaged" when he named and claimed Church Growth as an evil plaguing WELS.
Thanks to the code of Omerta (silence) in WELS/ELS, we do not know the exact details on WELS women taking on the pastoral role and celebrating communion. After serious discussions over coffee and danish, the ELS/WELS lagomorphs declared a "moratorium" on such pastoral acts until the dawning of a New Age. ELCA did the same with gay clergy. Same method - different synod.
The question remains - how did a group of women decide they could have their own communion service? Unless someone believes that effects have no causes, there must be some energy influencing this change.
Fuller and Willow Creek have been the centers influencing WELS, the LCMS, the ELS, and ELCA for decades. Willow Creek is conveniently close to the Love Shack of WELS, the Little School on the Prairie, and St. Louis. Fuller is handy for the West Coast and a great place for vacation learning - take in Disney and decide which is more fun: Mickey Mouse or Entertainment Evangelism.
Fuller and Willow Creek have had feminist policies in place for decades. Their stated policy is to discipline any man at Fuller who objects to women pastors. That is why apostates love Fuller - a Scriptural position is punished there, doubtless by a committee of Amazons with buzz-cuts and five o'clock shadows.
A man cannot join Willow Creek unless he agrees to place himself under the spiritual leadership of women. On the farm they call that an alter call. For a period of time WELS paid for their mission pastors to be trained at Willow Creek. A TV show about the clergy thus trained could be called "The Sopranos." (Willow Creek also demanded and got a feminist Bible translation.)
In WELS, the TELL Church Growth magazine--cheap as it was--grew into the Evangelism department, and that morphed into Perish Services - now gutted by action of the convention.
Decades ago, Wisconsin Lutheran College had David Valleseky and Larry Olson on its board. Now it has three members from the same non-WELS congregation on the board - the president and two board members. The two chaplains for the tiny college are Shrinkers too.
WLC invited Martin Marty and Archbishop Weakland to speak.
WLC begat Charis, which begat Church and Change, thanks to a generous three-year gift of WELS offering money, midwifed by Perish Services.
Church and Change worked with Perish Services to create many different expressions of feminism, unionism, and doctrinal apostasy.
- WELS Staph Ministry - an infection no one has tried to stop.
- Jars of Clay.
- Mission Counselors and Perish Assistants.
- WELS Emerging Churches.
- Kathie Wendland's Women's Ministry Conference.
- WELS worship conferences, where women teach men.
- Martin Luther College, where men are taught to be subordinate to women in the church - accept female leadership in church or walk the plank.
Meanwhile, the brain-washed followers equate criticism of their apostate leaders with blasphemy, a term used only when God is attacked. And I quote:
Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Your Amnesty International Spokeswoman":
Blasphemy! This blog practices blasphemy. WELS pastors and leaders do not suffer from mental disorders. You do.
Blasphemy! This blog practices blasphemy. WELS pastors and leaders do not suffer from mental disorders. You do.
7 comments:
The DPs and SPs stand "helpless" as the liberals defend themselves with a "you can't prove it from the Bible" defense.
Fellowship is not a simple "altar, pulpit, and prayer" affair. If something looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it is a duck. So also, if something looks like fellowship, acts like fellowship, and walks together like fellowship, it is fellowship. Also, if we are in fellowship with each other, then we need to look like it, act like it, and walk like it.
Sometimes we have to agree with Luther, "You have a different spirit" and act accordingly.
Of course, there are many scriptures to deal with these liberals in the WELS and ELS. What a study of these scriptures will do is reveal that there are two different ways of understanding the Bible in the WELS and ELS, just as there are in the LC-MS and ELCA. Are the DPs and SPs afraid that little bit of information will come out? It is better that it does, and the sooner the better. We can see where two opposing views of understanding the Bible can lead in the ELCA vote on sodomizing "pastors" this summer.
The WELS and ELS have to answer the question, "Is there room for non-Lutheran practice in our synods?" If not, a "cease and desist" admonition is needed and then a painful but useful surgery if the admonition is rejected.
My pastor has admonished Bill Hybels/ Willow Creek many times. Everything "goes" according to the Creek. It's called Universalism, look into it! So everybody goes to Heaven. Hum, that's not what the Bible says. He who does not believe will not be saved.
If you want to be a wind in the willows, leave WELS. WELS needs to remain confessional. The apostates need to get! Almost every church in my area is connected with Mars Hill/Acts 19/Resurgence, and Willow Creek. Some are connected to both. Sounds kind of scary doesn't it? Some of these places do not offer communion because it might offend someone. So here you have it, no Means Of Grace. You cannot, you CANNOT, plant the seeds without the means of grace.
Martin Marty was a bad mistake and my pastor often shakes his head in serious humor on that one. Please read the Concordia. Those apostate sects of the middle-ages and early church years have reappeared in new packaging. It is past time for me to be writting a letter to SP Schroeder. The DP's are just standing there looking.
In Christ,
from WELS church lady
I almost forgot! Happy New Year Pastor GJ!
In response to 10:02's comments, I did not copy your information. My statements are very similar. I guess it is a good thing. After I keyed in the post, your comment published. At first I thought it was mine until I shook my head a little.
In Christ,
from WELS church lady
My understanding, as an ELS guy, is that this was a WELS issue but was not an ELS issue. But, since WELS decides what is important and what is not important for themselves and the little synod, ELS follows in due obedient fashion.
There is an interesting note in the new Lutheran Study Bible about the 'headship' which Paul lists in Ephesians. Think about headship not in military terms (Patton was the head of 3rd Army, for example) but of a biological analogy. The man could be the head and the woman the heart, say, and the idea is clear that a body needs many parts no one of which could exist by itself.
Of course, if you think that headship means that women shouldn't vote in the congregation then you have created your own theological understanding of a Pauline metaphor.
Norman Teigen
ELS layman
(and, of late, an official spokesman for the ELS)
What to do with apostate leaders who reject the Word and refuse to get psychological counseling?
Being brain-washed they cannot tell right from wrong.
WELS/ELS only recognizes one cause, that is, God. Causal analysis goes right over their heads.
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