Mark Goeglein, nominal Lutheran
This Just In:
One Shrinker thinks I have "dragged Mark Goeglein's name through the mud" by suggesting he taught at a Babtist church. Given that premise (Babtist, mud, etc) then why did Church and Change invite Babtist Ed Stetzer to teach WELS? New Ager Leonard Sweet to teach WELS? If associating with Babtists is so mud-inflicting, why does the Jeske circle spend so much time studying under them. I swear, Katie and Ski need a monthly fix to help them make it to the next annual Andy Stanley Babtist Drive Rockapalooza.
Why did WELS kelm Warren's awful Porpoise-Driven material and publish it? Warren is a Babtist. I saw his dunking pool at Saddlesore.
I already posted WELS congregations like St. Mark, Depere, in full fellowship (by their own volition) in the Willow Creek Association or the Rick Warren Denomination. Are they dragging their own names through the mud? Or Luther's?
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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Mark Goeglein Resume":
Why on earth would you run a story that you didn't have credible information on? Is this all your blog is, slander, malice, hate, and lies? There is a special place for people who live in sin.
GJ - That special place is Church and Change Headquarters.
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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Dragged Through the Mud, Or Dragging One's Congreg...":
What is a Shrinker?
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GJ - Church Growth Enthusiasts have been renamed Shrinkers on this blog because they are so good at shrinking the size of their synods and the budgets thereof. Look at their numbers for the last 30 years - they stink. Shrinkers have increased their salaries and the numbers of apostates hired, but everything worthwhile has gone downhill.
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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Dragged Through the Mud, Or Dragging One's Congreg...":
What a ridiculous post. You totally dodge the point made by myself and that other poster.
What proof do you even have that Goeglein is working with Church and Change? As far as I know, he has had no direct ties to them (perhaps you could provide some evidence to the contrary).
You are digging yourself deeper and deeper in slander, without any evidence to back it up. If it were a public sin, that would be one thing, but you have nothing to back up your slanderous assertions. And when prompted, you provided nothing else, but rather you dodge the issue completely.
What does God's Word say about unrepentant slanderers? Since you publicly sinned against Pastor Goeglein by posting unsubstantiated rumor aimed at hurting his good name, you should publicly state such and repent.
As is, you are no better then the many men you decry.
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GJ - I promote C and C all the time. I am waiting for them to quote me.
Like I said, if going Babtist is mud-throwing, why is C and C so eager to make WELS go Babtist? Look ye for a monument to Jeske? Look around at the wreckage caused by C and C, his personal sandbox.
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Some background on WELS Pastor Mark Goeglein
http://www.wels.net/s3/uploaded/779/proceed.pdf
Page 118 is the beginning of his essay
"The best Christian music, art, architecture, and literature (other than the Bible) may still be in the future as the wealth of the nations continues to flow in." Page 122, left column, 2nd full paragraph
"Let’s be willing to change what has to be changed to reach the lost." Page 122, right column, 2nd full paragraph
"Depending on the people who live in your neighborhood, you might be advised to learn the specialized language of the Mormons or Jehovah’s Witnesses. It is English but in order to communicate the Law and Gospel to these people, you will need to learn a new vocabulary." Page 126, left column, last paragraph
"1. Through the means of grace, keep cultivating an attitude of selfless Christian love. Attitude can’t be stressed enough or too often. The gospel’s goal is not behavior modification, but transformation of worldview and our whole way of thinking, speaking, and acting." Page 126, right column, 2nd paragraph
"Preaching of the gospel and making disciples is the primary mission of the Church," Page 127, left column, 4th paragraph
"9. Thank God and celebrate the successes. Don’t be suspicious of those who are having success in reaching out to people of other cultures. We would hope that all congregations and their leadership feel confident that other pastors, teachers, and congregations will allow them their Christian liberty so that they will not be exposed to judgmental criticism for changing externals in an attempt to reach out cross-culturally. Let’s allow the gospel to create its own forms among the new generations and cultures that the Holy Spirit gathers in." Page 128, right paragraph, 1st full paragraph
Bibliography
Sorum, E. Allen, Change: Mission and Ministry across Cultures. 1997. WELS Outreach Resources
http://www.wels.net/cgi-bin/site.pl?2617&contentID=18738&collectionID=70&seq=5
Goeglein accepts call as Hispanic/Latino
Outreach and Training Theological Educator
Mark Goeglein, a professor at Martin Luther College,
New Ulm, Minn., since 1999, will now serve as WELS’
Hispanic/Latino Outreach and Training Theological
Educator. He notes, “Since I returned from Colombia
to serve in El Paso, Texas, 20 years ago, I have been
very much interested in our outreach efforts to
Hispanics in the U.S., and praying that we as a synod
could do more.”
Goeglein’s teammates on the Hispanic/Latino Outreach
and Training team are Pastors Mike Roth and
Ron Baerbock. Goeglein will also work closely with
the seminary’s Congregational Evangelist Program and
the Pastoral Studies Institute to evaluate and develop
curricula for various levels of ministry.
Goeglein concludes, “Please join me in asking the
Lord of the Church to bless all of our efforts to reach
out in North America and prepare a generation of
English and Spanish speakers to faithfully proclaim
the peace that is ours in Jesus.”
