narrow-minded
has left a new comment on your post "
Letter
to WELS District President Jon Bucholz, Pre...":
I may not be the
brightest bulb in the stadium, but I don't see how UOJers can read Pr. Rydecki's
letter and continue to label JBFAers as Arminians, semi-Pelagians, synergists,
or as people who put faith in one's faith (according to No Call Paul).
The SynCon has destroyed the Means of Grace and the Sacraments. I would
label them as semi-Revivalists. Why? Because even if unbelievers are justified,
then Baptism is just an "act of obedience;" the Lord's Supper is only a
"memorial meal."
We are certainly capable of rejecting the Gospel, but
the Holy Ghost gets all the credit when we believe. Is the unrepentant thief
also in Paradise?
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quercuscontramalum (
http://quercuscontramalum.myopenid.com/)
has left a new comment on your post "
Letter
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"Pure gold."
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LutheranUniversalistsBeDamned
has left a new comment on your post "
No
Bad Translation Will Efface the Word of God, Wh...":
"
Hunnius'
work is not the only evidence against UOJ: the Scripture foremost and the BoC
are the main evidences against it."
This is absolutely correct. In
fact, Scripture and the Confessions ought to be the only necessary evidences
against it. If these were the only sources consulted by Universalists in the
Lutheran Synods, the case against JBFA could not even be opened. But they don't
limit themselves to Scripture and the Confessions. Laying behind their
interpretations is the claim that "the Church has
always taught Universal
Objective Justification," and that the Scriptures and the Confessions cannot be
properly understood without also accepting that UOJ has been the "unanimous
orthodox teaching of the church throughout its history." Pressed for evidence of
these claims, UOJ fanatics have provided such responses as "of course, we don't
see it taught directly, it was always assumed," or worse, have supplied
quotations from the church fathers and others that are stripped of their
context, often not even complete sentences, while declaring them to be
characteristic of the entire teaching of the church on the matter. To their
shame, it has too often been discovered that their use of such quotations is
deliberately misleading (i.e., Ambrose), and the qualifications they supply for
some of the theologians they quote are deliberately incomplete and/or
misrepresentative (i.e, Rambach). This is evidence of fraud within the UOJ
movement, and only leads to greater suspicion. Why are they doing
this?
But now we know better. The Church clearly has NOT taught UOJ all
along. As evidence, we now have in Hunnius and the Wittenberg faculty, a
specific rejection of UOJ in direct terms. Hunnius and others like him are
significant, not because they supplement or replace Scripture and the
Confessions, but because they deprive Lutheran Universalists of all foundation
for practicing their eisegesis, for reading their assumptions of "what the
church has always taught" back into the Scriptures. Without these false
assumptions guiding their interpretation, no one could ever conclude that
Scripture and the Confessions taught Universal Justification.
Links about Justification by Faith
and Justification without Faith (UOJ)
Luther's Galatians endorsed by reader
Luther's Galatians on Gnesio Lutherans
Roman Catholic adjunct Jack Kilcrease as Humpty Dumpty
Calov, quoted by Robert Preus, repudiated the UOJ position of WELS
Kilcrease, the McCain tutor, equivocates.
Buchholz is anti-Luther
Pastor Bickel on Tossing Rydecki Under the Bus
Church and Changer Jeff Gunn and His Mequon Class of Shrinkers
Paul McCain and Jon Buchholz - Bedfellows of Apostasy
Abraham Is the Common Theme in Justification - Justification by Faith
Pastor Rydecki's Account of His Suspension - October 9th
Intrepid Account October 6th- Pastor Rydecki Suspended
LutherQuest (sic) Opposes Justification by Faith
Warming Up the Tar and Feathers on LutherQuest (sic)
Pastor Bickel Answers Jon Buchholz
Kokomo Statements - WELS UOJ - JP Meyer
Jack Kilcrease Showing Signs of Stress
Dr. Lito Cruz and Brett Meyer Dispatch the UOJ Stormtroopers on Extra Nos
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Martin Luther College spelling and grammar!
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Justin Hieb
has left a new comment on your post "
Letter
to WELS District President Jon Bucholz, Pre...":
okay (
sic) clearly some
things were said that shouldnt (
sic) have been said. And scripture (
sic) needs to prevail
over all else. But did this really need to be up on the internet for everyone to
scoff at? no (
sic). what (
sic) ever (
sic) happened to Matthew 18:15? Shameful. Its (
sic) shameful that
we have resorted to all of this mudslinging.
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GJ - All posts are subject to my my blue pencil. I am happy to do the editing your Martin Luther College professors have failed to provide, Justin.
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Febreze has
left a new comment on your post "
Letter
to WELS District President Jon Bucholz, Pre...":
Justin:
It
was being discussed privately between the District President, Pastor Rydecki,
and other pastors. He was finally booted from the WELS for teaching that sinners
are justified by faith alone. Does that not raise a red flag? Especially during
the Reformation month?
He certainly didn't need to do anything in
private, but he did, probably in the attempts to have the WELS see their error.
He could have gone public right away, but didn't. Public error certainly needs
public rebuke so others won't be led astray. All the WELS publications that
proclaim their "universal justification" are public. Why on earth do we discuss
public sin privately? Have you read Luther's explanation of the 8th
Commandment?
"All this has been said regarding secret sins [Febreeze -
Matt. 18:15]. But where the sin is quite public so that the judge and everybody
know it, you can without any sin avoid him and let him go, because he has
brought himself into disgrace, and you may also publicly testify concerning him.
For when a matter is public in the light of day, there can be no slandering or
false judging or testifying; as, when we now reprove the Pope with his doctrine,
which is publicly set forth in books and proclaimed in all the world. For where
the sin is public, the reproof also must be public, that every one may learn to
guard against it."
It turned from a matter of discussion to him being
labeled a heretic. Does anything in this letter stand out to you? The only thing
you have concern with is Pres. Buchholz' integrity? How about Pastor Rydecki
after falsely being charged with heresy? The WELS has shown itself to teach a
different Gospel than what has been handed down to us.
P.S. This isn't
mudslinging.
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Pastor emeritus
Nathan Bickel has left a new comment on your post "
Letter
to WELS District President Jon Bucholz, Pre...":
Ichabod -
I
read [this] Pastor Rydecki's letter to DP Bucholz, and I cannot help but think
that the Scriptural substance is above and beyond this DP.
I hope and
pray that Pastor Rydecki will move on quickly and pay no mind to these
ecclesiastical dead horses. After this excellent letter, I would think that
there is no more reason to waste one's time beating the Bucholz synodical
horse.
At some point, one has to conclude that it is humanly fruitless to
prevent the blind from leading the blind.
Nathan M.
Bickel
www.thechristianmessage.org
www.moralmatters.org
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solafide (
http://solafide.myopenid.com/) has left
a new comment on your post "
Letter
to WELS District President Jon Bucholz, Pre...":
Mr. Hieb, yes, it
needs to be on the internet.
The WELS has published that Pastor Rydecki
was suspended and offered no explanation as to why. He certainly gets the
opportunity to defend his good name.
As with Pastor Rydecki, I am truly
bothered
by DP Buchholz promising one thing and only a few days later taking
action contrary to what he promised.
As Brett Meyer has said, this is
really refreshing to finally hear someone (other than us undesirables who post
on this blog) challenge the false teachers in the WELS.
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GJ - This dogma of universal absolution is much bigger than the Wisconsin Sect, because it remains the official error of the ELS and LCMS as well.
ELCA and all mainline denominations also teach that God's grace means every single person on earth is justified, whether that person ever believes or not.
